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    Lisa please inform me,as i would like a better understanding of it all, has not the private sector being doing just that up until now,? would not the research be of more value and go further if it were government funded though, please fill me in, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carole View Post
    Lisa please inform me,as i would like a better understanding of it all, has not the private sector being doing just that up until now,? would not the research be of more value and go further if it were government funded though, please fill me in, thanks.
    I feel that the private sector has more qualified scientists to do this research. If the government pays for the research, it will go slower as committee after committee is formed to "study" the problem.

    Research will come to a screeching halt every few years when Congress runs for office. As new administrations come in, the direction will change.

    If the private sector does the research, they will own the product. They will be accountable to their stock holders who will fire their "a$$es" if they don't deliver. If several companies are competing, we will get results faster. They will be working as quickly as possible, because research costs money.

    They don't have time to waste because time is money. Our Congress has wasted so much time and money passing stuff like "National Doughnut Day" and "National Underwear Day".

    I really believe if we had waited for a Government to develop computers for personal use, we would still be waiting for them to hold yet another meeting on defining what exactly a "personal" computer was. I am a big proponent of entrepreneurship.

    I don't want the Government dictating what research can be done. If they are footing the bill (or contributing), that will give them more say. Maybe I'm cynical, but I've never seen timely results from a Government Agency.
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    Thank you Lisa, that explained it well, I can understand where you are coming from now, cheers.
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    Much of the money would be grant money - not spent by government scientist but by grants to universities and other institutions to do the research.

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    He is certainly a savior. 100% in agreement with Carole!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Much of the money would be grant money - not spent by government scientist but by grants to universities and other institutions to do the research.

    Yeah.... THAT makes all the difference. You are so cute when on the ropes. I certainly admire you dedication. You would have been a GREAT Soviet.



    Even you should know all government handouts come with those nasty strings. Imagine the power government gets over us once they own our health care?

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    Polio

    Anybody familiar with polio? Worried every summer in particular about your kids catching polio? Hanging garlic around your neck to ward off polio? Know anyone under 50 with polio?

    If not, you can thank that evil, wasteful, incompetent government - National Institutes of Health and vaious research universities which....with help from the evil, wasteful incompetent government came up with the vaccine that virtually eliminated polio in this country.

    I remember as a kid when the vaccine first came out -- going with my family and neighbors to the local grade school where we were given a sugar cube with the vaccine -- all done and coordinated and paid for by that evil, wasteful, incompetent government.

    Now some might see it as interferring with freedom - freedom to die or be crippled by polio.

    I see it as government doing its job - protecting its people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Anybody familiar with polio? Worried every summer in particular about your kids catching polio? Hanging garlic around your neck to ward off polio? Know anyone under 50 with polio?

    If not, you can thank that evil, wasteful, incompetent government - National Institutes of Health and vaious research universities which....with help from the evil, wasteful incompetent government came up with the vaccine that virtually eliminated polio in this country.

    I remember as a kid when the vaccine first came out -- going with my family and neighbors to the local grade school where we were given a sugar cube with the vaccine -- all done and coordinated and paid for by that evil, wasteful, incompetent government.

    Now some might see it as interferring with freedom - freedom to die or be crippled by polio.

    I see it as government doing its job - protecting its people.
    I, too, remember that time very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Anybody familiar with polio? Worried every summer in particular about your kids catching polio? Hanging garlic around your neck to ward off polio? Know anyone under 50 with polio?

    If not, you can thank that evil, wasteful, incompetent government - National Institutes of Health and vaious research universities which....with help from the evil, wasteful incompetent government came up with the vaccine that virtually eliminated polio in this country.

    I remember as a kid when the vaccine first came out -- going with my family and neighbors to the local grade school where we were given a sugar cube with the vaccine -- all done and coordinated and paid for by that evil, wasteful, incompetent government.

    Now some might see it as interferring with freedom - freedom to die or be crippled by polio.

    I see it as government doing its job - protecting its people.

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    A, sadly, rare success story of government intervention. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Government is wasteful and generally incompetent, but I don't think evil is a word I would use, at least not yet.

    But to the bold part. This is where you are I are miles apart. I do not believe government's job is to protect us. Protecting you is YOUR job. You have to see that with the government's "protection" comes dependance upon that very government. I see it as much akin to the Mob and how they use "protection" schemes. Dependance is not liberty and liberty is what sets us apart from all the other nations of the Earth. We were founded on the principal of individual liberty and that with such freedom, man can truly excel. And you know what? We DID. Of course there were bumps along the way, there always will be. Now, as our nation ages the people look more and more to the government to help them when things go bad... Look what it is getting us...

    Think about it from your personal perspective. You are a smart person. Do you want some dimwit government employee dictating to you what procedue you can have done? How far you can drive you car? What you can or cannot eat? The more we depend on the government for these things, the more enslaved we become.

    Now, back to your orginal point here... Yes, government can do good things. But I am not willing to pay, because when you say government pays, WE are the ones paying, for the very poor success to failure ratio government produces.

    I comes down to this... Do you want to be free, or do you want guaranteed food, jobs, housing, 'safety', etc?
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