Yes we are both relieved that there is to be no surgery, but like you said does not alleviate the pain does it? her specialist is top notch guy, he does all the knee surgery on our top rugby team the ALL BLACKS, and yes i am impressed too, he said he only see's about two or three people a year with what she has, and has done two or three operations, and they went fine, but he said they are not very successful and your knee is never the same afterwards.

The osteo is in her knee cap, where the original problem is, and not in the joints,she was born with this condition, basically in simple terms the knee cap is not in the right place, and he asked about her siblings, which is me of course, she told him about my ongoing knee pain for over twenty years and difficulty getting up the stairs and crunching, he said i probably had the same thing, i think he could well be right there, i am having a terrible time with the pain at the moment, and need a walking stick to get up and down the stairs at the moment.

I will be going to see a specialist in the near future to see what is what, but at the moment i need to see to my husbands problems, mine can wait, not urgent.

She has to use an exercycle believe it or not, the worst thing i can imagine with my sore knees, but no resistence and high seat, and it will help strengthen the muscles and hopefully ease the pain, guess i will be trading in my dreadmill,for one, i am tired of the dreadmill anyhow and have not used if for about 8mths.

The condition is called Patella femoral pain syndrome,just what i need another syndrome added to my others, lol.

Yes i really hope she can improve her pain with the exercise, because it is no fun at all, i know exactly how she feels right now.

Shepgirl in answer to your question , it was suggested, but the doctor said they have some mean side effects, so i guess she is opting out of that one for now, yes it may be necessary yet though.