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[Edwina's Secretary]

I do think this woman is looney for having so many kids... but what about the Dr's responsibility in this?

She has 6 kids and goes in for fertility treatments and GETS it? Someone on another board compared it to someone with no pain going in to get pain drugs and getting them.

and I'm not claiming to know much about fertility treatments but I do know a few people who have had them done and I'm really curious how she ended up with EIGHT viable eggs. From what I hear any responsible dr will not implant more than 3 eggs TOPS. So did these eggs REALLY divide that many times or did she get WAY too many eggs.

I say THAT's the kind of stuff that should be "controlled" if we are talking about controlling peoples actions. Stop these Dr's that do this. But I am certainly not about to jump on the mandatory "spaying" of women bandwagon. That's a little ridiculous to me.

I don't agree with what this woman did... it's the kids that are going to suffer. but I'm not about to demand a one child per family law. this IS America isn't it?

And the doctors who wash their hands and say it is not their responsibility to tell a woman how many children she can have make me sick.

Look Sparky! We agree on this!

[Grace]

I'm really curious how she ended up with EIGHT viable eggs. From what I hear any responsible dr will not implant more than 3 eggs TOPS. So did these eggs REALLY divide that many times or did she get WAY too many eggs.

That's the $64,000 question. We have not yet heard from her original doctor. Her mother said, a day or so ago, that all her pregnancies were the result of IVF. She also said that there were 8 embryos remaining, and all of them were implanted. Since there are no more embryos, one could possible hope that she will have no more children.

[pomtzu]

OK.... So you have issues about paying for this, you know, some less fortunate children's well being. What might your stance on public funding of abortion be?

Better yet, what is your stance on the "stimulus" bill making its way through Congress?

I'm not talking abortion or the stimulus bill - I talking about MY money and that of all U.S. taxpayers, more than likely supporting these children of this totally reckless woman. What she did IMO is the most selfish and irresponsible act I have ever heard of. I think it's fairly accurate to assume that she will be receiving assistance for herself and her children for many years to come.
And what about all the deserving people in this country who practically have to beg for assistance, and in many cases this is denied to them. What about the elderly and disabled and handicapped who can't pay for prescriptions, who go hungry, are cold and even freezing to death in their own homes because they can't pay their utility bills? So many ask for assistance and are denied because the few hundred dollars they get from Social Security each month is "too much money" to qualify, and others are just to proud to ask! The majority of these folks have no retirement plan or 401K plan to draw from. What about the unemployed (thru no fault of their own) who are losing everything because of this crappy economy - don't they deserve assistance more than this woman?
I'm really sick of the illegals, deadbeats, and moochers who live off the taxpayer, and have never contributed anything, yet get every freebie under the sun, just for the asking. Free medical care, housing, food stamps, education opportunities, for themselves and all their children. This woman fits right in, and I certainly don't want to hear anyone defending her and citing her primal instinct to reproduce. Spare me please!!!!! She's nothing more than a college educated nutcase. I'm sure she flunked Common Sense 101.

[pomtzu]

That's the $64,000 question. We have not yet heard from her original doctor. Her mother said, a day or so ago, that all her pregnancies were the result of IVF. She also said that there were 8 embryos remaining, and all of them were implanted. Since there are no more embryos, one could possible hope that she will have no more children.

There was a discussion on t.v. among some medical experts where they agreed it borders on medical malpractice to implant 8 embryos. The dangers to the mother and babies is astronomical, and even tho the odds of all 8 "taking" would be slim, it happened in this case.

[RICHARD]

Before I nodded off last night, I saw on TV that it will cost a minimum of $480,000.00 for hospital care for the octuplets and that's on top of the cost of the invitro process itself. I'm sure this woman has this much money put aside for just such an occasion and won't have to rely on the dole at all.

Kaiser is a non profit hospital that is a HMO.

If she can afford the premiums, it won't cost anyone anything-except the people in the plan..


We DON"T KNOW if she had the procedure done here in the U.S. where repro med is regulated. She live a stroller's push away from the border and she may have done like many people here in the states-gone across the border for treatment-


I think all the panic is pretty PREMATURE (Pun Intended) and we shouldn't count our embryos before they hatch.

[Grace]

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. . . . . . . . and we shouldn't count our embryos before they hatch.

Too late, Richard. They hatched last week, all 8 of them.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Kaiser is a non profit hospital that is a HMO.

If she can afford the premiums, it won't cost anyone anything-except the people in the plan..

Boy are you naive as to how medical care is paid for in this country!

[RICHARD]

Next time I give advice to people who ask about medical billing I'll have to charge them for being uninformed.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Next time I give advice to people who ask about medical billing I'll have to charge them for being uninformed.

That's okay. It was worth exactly what I paid for it!

[pomtzu]

Kaiser is a non profit hospital that is a HMO.

If she can afford the premiums, it won't cost anyone anything-except the people in the plan..

I seriously doubt a woman with 6 kids, unemployed, living with her parents, and lost her home to foreclosure, could afford private insurance premiums. And it won't cost anyone anything??? I guess she won't be seeking public assistance for herself and 14 kids??? Think again!

[lizbud]

There was a discussion on t.v. among some medical experts where they agreed it borders on medical malpractice to implant 8 embryos. The dangers to the mother and babies is astronomical, and even tho the odds of all 8 "taking" would be slim, it happened in this case.

Here is a good article about the ethics of Drs. who would implant that many
embryos in anyone.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/30...ics/index.html

[Daisy and Delilah]

sparks: I read that her mother said there were fewer than eight implanted embryos. She stated to the media that the eggs divided.

I also read that she told the doctor she had no more children. I believe it was in the Whittier newspaper.

[RICHARD]

I seriously doubt a woman with 6 kids, unemployed, living with her parents, and lost her home to foreclosure, could afford private insurance premiums. And it won't cost anyone anything??? I guess she won't be seeking public assistance for herself and 14 kids??? Think again!

I worked for Kaiser for 30 years.

Go online and see what the monthly rates are. If anything, to have coverage you have to either be employed by someone who offers the coverage, work for the company or pay for your insurance.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Or be sent to that hospital because it has the best neonatal program in the area.

According to the news conference the day she delivered she was sent to Kaiser in Bellflower because of their neonatal staff.

Are you REALLY suggesting a person who is on public medical insurance isn't sent to the best hospital for their condition?

Perhaps it has been a while since you worked for Kaiser?

How much would you like to bet whether she had Kaiser coverage? Or whether she was sent to Kaiser and they accepted her and agreed to "absorb" much of the cost so that ONLY those who have Kaiser coverage or are taxpayers are on the hook?

At the end of the day, I don't care if she is insured or not, married or not, none of that. I...and those of you who pay taxes, consume water, breath air, or are otherwise alive....will pay for this woman's children.

[pomtzu]

At the end of the day, I don't care if she is insured or not, married or not, none of that. I...and those of you who pay taxes, consume water, breath air, or are otherwise alive....will pay for this woman's children.

My point exactly!