Illinois Politics

[Catty1]

blue, are you reporting this event the way you are to disclose information, or to confirm a prejudice?

I'm just glad you didn't major in Journalism.

[Puckstop31]

"There are no allegations that President-elect Obama or anyone close to him had anything to do with any of the crimes Gov. Blagojevich is accused of having committed.

In fact, there are indications that Mr. Obama and his team refused to go along with the "pay to play" way Blagojevich is accused of operating, offering only "gratitude" if the governor appointed his friend Valerie Jarrett to take his U.S. Senate seat, much to the governor's chagrin. "

Didn't Obama say yesterday that he had NO contact with Blago about this?

Which is it? Did he refuse to play along or did he not know? if he did not know anything, how is that possible? Blago is supposedly on tape calling Obama a "MFer" for not being willing to pay. How could Obama not be willing to pay if he had no knowledge of it?


But then again, I realize this is a exercise in futility... So I guess we just add Blago to the list of people Obama knows who are ending up in jail or on the hot seat...

Rev. Wright

Tony Rezko

Rod Blagojevich

William Ayers


Yeah... "Change"

[Puckstop31]

I'm just glad you didn't major in Journalism.

Well, I bet ANY of us who did not major in Journalism could do a better job of getting the TRUTH out there than the people who did. Also, remember that education and wisdom are vastly different things.

[Catty1]

I mentioned that only because I detected - and have before - a definite bias in blue's comments when it comes to Obama.

Okay - he doesn't like the guy, didn't vote for him, whatever - fine. But that also means that any news that runs counter to his 'proof' is not going to be mentioned.

I have known several people that wound up in jail. So? (yes, I am not running for public office, but guilt by association is ridiculous at any level).

Journalists are not unbiased either, but they are trained to TRY to be. (that can change depending on the slant of the editor/manager of the venue one works for).

[Puckstop31]

I have known several people that wound up in jail. So? (yes, I am not running for public office, but guilt by association is ridiculous at any level).

Guilt by association? No. Suspicion by association? You bet.


Would you not agree the following quote is pretty accurate?

"Show me your friends and I will show you your future."

[Grace]

Would you not agree the following quote is pretty accurate?

"Show me your friends and I will show you your future."

No, I would not agree with that statement.

[Lady's Human]

Here's the reason I posted the link to the article:

But on November 23, 2008, his senior adviser David Axelrod appeared on Fox News Chicago and said something quite different.

While insisting that the President-elect had not expressed a favorite to replace him, and his inclination was to avoid being a "kingmaker," Axelrod said, "I know he's talked to the governor and there are a whole range of names many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them."

And it changes

(UPDATE #2: Axelrod this evening issued a statement saying. "I was mistaken when I told an interviewer last month that the President-elect has spoken directly to Governor Blagojevich about the Senate vacancy. They did not then or at any time discuss the subject.")

And then referring to the Illinois Gov. election campaign:

Emanuel told the New Yorker earlier this year that he and Obama "participated in a small group that met weekly when Rod was running for governor. We basically laid out the general election, Barack and I and these two."

Wilhelm said that Emanuel had overstated Obama's role. "There was an advisory council that was inclusive of Rahm and Barack but not limited to them," Wilhelm said, and he disputed the notion that Obama was "an architect or one of the principal strategists."

(An Obama Transition Team aide emails to note that Emanuel later changed his recollection of this story to Rich Miller's "CAPITOL FAX," saying, "David [Wilhelm] and I have worked together on campaigns for decades. Like always, he's right and I'm wrong.")

Now, these people are all in the public eye, all know they're under a microscpoe, but still they can't get their stories straight.

You think they might have had a meeting or two before this broke to get their lies together?

[lizbud]

Here's the reason I posted the link to the article:




And it changes



And then referring to the Illinois Gov. election campaign:





Now, these people are all in the public eye, all know they're under a microscpoe, but still they can't get their stories straight.

You think they might have had a meeting or two before this broke to get their lies together?

You are making a giant assumption that Obama knew the intimate
details about the Ill Gov's life, that Obama could have predicted the crimes.

[blue]

blue, are you reporting this event the way you are to disclose information, or to confirm a prejudice?

I'm just glad you didn't major in Journalism.

Im not reporting anything, Im attempting to point out the inconsistancies of the posts of others.

I could just make a statement and not back it up as others repeately do here time after time, I chose to try to post the sources for what I find and let you and others come to their own conclusions.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Im not reporting anything, Im attempting to point out the inconsistancies of the posts of others.

I could just make a statement and not back it up as others repeately do here time after time, I chose to try to post the sources for what I find and let you and others come to their own conclusions.

Yawn....

[blue]

Yawn....

Would it be more exciting for you if I started making random unsubstantiated statements? If I started doing that I could make fun of you and others when you want to see the source of my information and belittle you for your lack of interweb search skills.

I guess in your eyes that would be fair play.

I dont give two Ds if the letter behind the gov of IL is D or R.

I want to see the facts, it seems you and others dont care.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Would it be more exciting for you if I started making random unsubstantiated statements? If I started doing that I could make fun of you and others when you want to see the source of my information and belittle you for your lack of interweb search skills.

I guess in your eyes that would be fair play.

I dont give two Ds if the letter behind the gov of IL is D or R.

I want to see the facts, it seems you and others dont care.

Again...yawn....

Can you say something interesting? Or at least understandable?

[blue]

Again...yawn....

Thanks for the confirmation.

I can edit too.

You got anything better?

Further edit: You really have nothing better then "Yawn" to show your point? Seriously? Do you have any facts to back up anything you post? Im assuming you make it up as you go along from this point foreward as you have rarely backed up anything you post with a source or fact.