Illinois Politics

[lizbud]

The difference is Palin asked Stevens to step down before his trail was concluded, Barack is acting like nothing happened.

Obama is not a elected official of goverment, he has no authority to
do anything. It's none of his business.

[blue]

Obama is not a elected official of goverment, he has no authority to
do anything. It's none of his business.

While he is the President elect, is he not still the Senator from IL? As a cittizen and the State Senator could he not make a strong condemnation of the Govenors actions and call for an investigation because it is his, Mr Obama's, seat that the gov was attempting to "sell"?

[lizbud]

While he is the President elect, is he not still the Senator from IL? As a cittizen and the State Senator could he not make a strong condemnation of the Govenors actions and call for an investigation because it is his, Mr Obama's, seat that the gov was attempting to "sell"?

Obama has already resigned his seat in the Senate. He is President elect,
but not President yet.

[smokey the elder]

Technically, President-elect Obama is in political "no man's land". He's not a Senator anymore, and he is not the President, either. As is proper, IMO, he is focusing on what he needs in place to take his seat as President in January. What his "camp" and he say may or may not jibe, based on the date at hand at any given time. The motivation of the different stories might be lies, might be carelessness, might be ignorance. As someone once said (I forget the origin, but a character on Bablyon 5 used this quote):"Truth is a three-edged sword; yours, mine, and the real truth."

[Grace]

This Governor is a real piece of work. His transgressions, and investigations by the FBI, go back years - long before Obama decided to run for President. I read that his father in law has barely spoken to him since 2005. Do you suppose it was Richard Mell, the f-i-l, who dropped a dime on him?

In 2005, Blagojevich's father-in-law, Chicago Alderman Richard Mell, accused the governor's adviser and fundraiser, Christopher Kelly, of trading state jobs and appointments for campaign contributions. That accusation, which Mell later recanted, launched several investigations.

_ Blagojevich's then-chief of staff personally approved people hired for such routine jobs as secretary, auto mechanic and film office intern, even though those jobs are supposed to be sheltered from political influence.

_ Blagojevich's own inspector general found that the governor's patronage chief and a state agency had engaged in a "concerted effort" to subvert hiring laws. At another agency, people were hired before it was determined what jobs they would fill.

_ The Blagojevich administration gave a $522,000 contract to a campaign contributor to clean, among other things, Transportation Department road-salt storage barns. The agency's finance director at the time was the brother-in-law of the company's owner.

_ In 2006, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald asked the state attorney general to back off her investigation and let his office pursue "very serious allegations of endemic hiring fraud" in the Blagojevich administration.

_ Later that year, it was disclosed that Blagojevich's former campaign treasurer gave a $1,500 check to one of the governor's daughters a month before his wife started a $45,000 state job.

[RICHARD]

As someone once said (I forget the origin, but a character on Bablyon 5 used this quote):"Truth is a three-edged sword; yours, mine, and the real truth."

And the three questions that follow are

What is my co-pay?
HOW MANY STITCHES? and
How many days off do I get?

[blue]

Obama has already resigned his seat in the Senate.

Thank you, I did not know that.

[Edwina's Secretary]

As a cittizen and the State Senator could he not make a strong condemnation of the Govenors actions and call for an investigation because it is his, Mr Obama's, seat that the gov was attempting to "sell"?

Why did Gov Palin not call for Stevens resignation when he was indicted -- as citizen if nothing else? Why did she wait to call for his resignation until after he was convicted? Does that mean she is guilty of corruption too?

Gov Blagojevich is a crook and I am glad to see him get his.

I think the hyenas trying to paint others as corrupt because they hail from the same state or belong to the same party or shook hands are exhibiting rather desparate and illogical behavior.

[blue]

Why did Gov Palin not call for Stevens resignation when he was indicted -- as citizen if nothing else? Why did she wait to call for his resignation until after he was convicted? Does that mean she is guilty of corruption too?

Gov Blagojevich is a crook and I am glad to see him get his.

I think the hyenas trying to paint others as corrupt because they hail from the same state or belong to the same party or shook hands are exhibiting rather desparate and illogical behavior.

Gov Palin asked Stevens to step down before the trial even started, not after the conviction.

I think its a bit more then being from the same state in Blago's case.

[Lady's Human]

Sorry, but one govenor in jail is a damned shame, but two governors in a row indicates that there's more than just the governor who's corrupt.

Add in Congressman Rostenkowski, and there's more than just an out of control governor in play here.

[RICHARD]

It's an FN shame when you get to know who the LT. Gov, Attn. Gen., Senators and Congress folks are in one state because they cannot behave themselves.

I thought that when elephants in Lost Angeles were in trouble was a sign of the Apocalypse.....Hyenas?

[Edwina's Secretary]

Sorry, but one govenor in jail is a damned shame, but two governors in a row indicates that there's more than just the governor who's corrupt.

Add in Congressman Rostenkowski, and there's more than just an out of control governor in play here.

Don't forget Paul Powell...my personal favorite.

And...Illinois had two governors in a row who were NOT convicted of anything.

Of course...at the end of the day...what does the action of one person have to do with the qualifications of another person?

That is what you guys continue to avoid explaining....

[RICHARD]

Two words.


FERRIS BUELLER

[blue]

Don't forget Paul Powell...my personal favorite.

And...Illinois had two governors in a row who were NOT convicted of anything.

Of course...at the end of the day...what does the action of one person have to do with the qualifications of another person?

That is what you guys continue to avoid explaining....

Because of Rep. Don Young's close association with Stevens Ild like to see him step down, I was sorry to see he was reelected. Young has recently stepped down from key comittees to try and clear his name from the fog of corruption implications, thats not good enough for me.

The actions of Stevens and his close relationship with Rep. Young are the same to me as the actions of those who Obama associated with, Obama was helped by and has helped, and who Obama closely worked with over the years.

A few of Young and Stevens associates are now in jail, a number of Obama's associates are in jail and indicted. Ild be a hypocrite to think Stevens deserves what he got and that Young deserves the same scrutiny, and think President Elect Barry should get a pass on his associations with criminals and terrorists.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Gov Palin asked Stevens to step down before the trial even started, not after the conviction.

You might be interested in this YouTube from July 2008. Palin expressing her admiration for Stevens? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YptTFDsktVQ

Or her comment on November 8 -- after his conviction that she would not tell him to step down because she "is not a dictator."?

Looks like you are right...it is more than just being from the same state! Some politicians go so far as to express admiration for indicted felons of the political persuasion!