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You did not back up anything you said, so again you did not make your case against Marigolds cut and paste.

Point 1, is not a CNN transcript, where is FAIR wrong or taken out of context?

Point 2, if you copied and pasted the link you would find it is not invalid. Now tell me how that was taken out of context.

Point 3, is the same link as Point 2. Im sure you can show how it was taken out of context a second time.

Since Im sure you are going to point out where CNN was taken out of context for us Im going to skip those and concede the PDF downloads as well.

Im too beat to copy and paste the sources for Point 13 to check its validity.

Point 14 is the only link that is not valid.

ETA:


Sorry I was looking at the links you said were invalid.

Since only 1 link returned an error, how did you come up with the claim that 5 are invalid?

Point 1, Marigolds states the 11 to 22 billion is for illegal immigrants. The article states this is due to all immigration, once again an incorrect quote.

point 2 and 3, the costs she states are cost overall, not just illegal immigration, did you read the article further to read the clarification, if its too hard I will copy and paste it:

A Complex Fiscal Picture
Welfare use. Our findings show that many of the preconceived notions about the fiscal impact of illegal households turn out to be inaccurate. In terms of welfare use, receipt of cash assistance programs tends to be very low, while Medicaid use, though significant, is still less than for other households. Only use of food assistance programs is significantly higher than that of the rest of the population. Also, contrary to the perceptions that illegal aliens don't pay payroll taxes, we estimate that more than half of illegals work "on the books." On average, illegal households pay more than $4,200 a year in all forms of federal taxes. Unfortunately, they impose costs of $6,950 per household.



Social Security and Medicare. Although we find that the net effect of illegal households is negative at the federal level, the same is not true for Social Security and Medicare. We estimate that illegal households create a combined net benefit for these two programs in excess of $7 billion a year, accounting for about 4 percent of the total annual surplus in these two programs. However, they create a net deficit of $17.4 billion in the rest of the budget, for a total net loss of $10.4 billion. Nonetheless, their impact on Social Security and Medicare is unambiguously positive. Of course, if the Social Security totalization agreement with Mexico signed in June goes into effect, allowing illegals to collect Social Security, these calculations would change.





Carole, I am really sorry about this thread but all of Marigold's instances are just wrong.