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    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    Its a bunch of B.S. and if you don't realize that I pity you. FIVE of your links are INVALID. The CNN quotes are out of context....give me one thing that is left?
    8 out of the 14 links and points seem to still be valid.
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    My issue with the comments made by Marigold are simple. The immigration stats cited in the various articles cover illegal immigration, not Mexican illegal immigration.

    There are Chinese, Mexican, Salvadoran, Columbian, Kenyan, etc.. illegal immigrants.

    It is NOT a problem which lies solely with one country, and to paint it as such is disingenuous at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    8 out of the 14 links and points seem to still be valid.
    Honestly can you point me to one? Everything I have found is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    Honestly can you point me to one? Everything I have found is wrong.
    Then how could you honestly say only 1 was taken out of context?

    Please point out how the remaining 8 are false.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Then how could you honestly say only 1 was taken out of context?

    Please point out how the remaining 8 are false.
    Every quote I have looked at from on the CNN site it wrong or out of context. It is being quoted out of context or taken out of context, just saying give me one that we can debate...that you think it valid, because I cannot find one, I am being honest and not trying to be combative at all. Marigold's posts have always been far from factual IMO.

    Edited to add, at the time of my original post I found one out of context and 5 bad links. Since then I tried to find one valid and have had no luck. Didn't want to make this a huge homework project on my part!
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    Didn't want to make this a huge homework project on my part!
    Way to make your case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Way to make your case.
    So take my last sentence after I did quite a bit of research and take it out of context, you are really not an intellectual debater....where is Lady's Human when I need a mature person to debate. At least he sticks to the facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    So take my last sentence after I did quite a bit of research and take it out of context, you are really not an intellectual debater....where is Lady's Human when I need a mature person to debate. At least he sticks to the facts.
    You did not back up anything you said, so again you did not make your case against Marigolds cut and paste.

    Point 1, is not a CNN transcript, where is FAIR wrong or taken out of context?

    Point 2, if you copied and pasted the link you would find it is not invalid. Now tell me how that was taken out of context.

    Point 3, is the same link as Point 2. Im sure you can show how it was taken out of context a second time.

    Since Im sure you are going to point out where CNN was taken out of context for us Im going to skip those and concede the PDF downloads as well.

    Im too beat to copy and paste the sources for Point 13 to check its validity.

    Point 14 is the only link that is not valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
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    Sorry I was looking at the links you said were invalid.

    Since only 1 link returned an error, how did you come up with the claim that 5 are invalid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Way to make your case.
    Way to deflect the whole thing so you have to do NO work and show me NO valid points, very mature.
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    crickets...chirp chirp like I thought...out for the night.
    don't breed or buy while shelter dogs die....

    I have been frosted!

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  11. Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    Way to deflect the whole thing so you have to do NO work and show me NO valid points, very mature.

    You want a valid point? Try this one.

    How much do these illegal immigrants PAY in taxes? Why is that not cited? When they work state and local taxes are deducted from their paychecks. FICA - social security they will never be able to collect - is dedcuted from their paychecks. When they shop they pay sales tax.

    For any of this to have any validity or logic -- that must be included. How much do they add to the economy -- value from the strawberries they pick and the toilets they clean?

    This is one-sided. Let's hear the other half of the equation.

    Oh and Marigold.....when you say something as ugly and offensive as "drop a kid" about anyone -- what do you expect?

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