"Baby Cockfight"

[Cataholic]

Something still confuses me...if the two toddlers are both this women's...which I guess is possible, maybe they are Irish twins???...why would only ONE of the children be removed from the home?

[JenBKR]

Something still confuses me...if the two toddlers are both this women's...which I guess is possible, maybe they are Irish twins???...why would only ONE of the children be removed from the home?

hmm...I didn't realize that they both had the same mother...I guess I just assumed that they had different parents. They looked to me to be about the same age, although it was kind of hard to tell. Maybe two different fathers? I don't know...

[lizbud]

Something still confuses me...if the two toddlers are both this women's...which I guess is possible, maybe they are Irish twins???...why would only ONE of the children be removed from the home?

Off topic:

You do know how offensive the term "Irish Twins" really is don't you?
Do you also use "Tar Baby" & "Wetback" in conversation? With your education,
I think you could do better than that.

[Cataholic]

Off topic:

You do know how offensive the term "Irish Twins" really is don't you?
Do you also use "Tar Baby" & "Wetback" in conversation? With your education,
I think you could do better than that.

No, I don't know how offensive the term "Irish twins" really is. I have heard people say it, in referring to their own children. I don't see a single thing offensive about it, obviously, or I would never have said it.

Sheesh, Liz...go find another target, would you? I don't do to well with the bullying thing. I should keep a record of every time you decide to get in another dig at me. If only I knew where the whole thing started I could attempt to go back and rectify it. I don't. And, since it has been going on for at least a year now, frankly, I am not that interested in searching it out.

Really, the whole thing with you is somewhat ironic. How ever could you justify a personal attack on me- as outlined above- for something you percieve as me insulting an entire country of people? I suppose I should now say something like it must be your lack of education?

[pomtzu]

And Christmas is just around the corner..................

TIS THE SEASON TO BE JOLLY

And I guess we could throw in "Love Thy Neighbor" - just for good measure!

[lizbud]

No, I don't know how offensive the term "Irish twins" really is. I have heard people say it, in referring to their own children. I don't see a single thing offensive about it, obviously, or I would never have said it.

It is derogatory slang that slurs Irish Catholic Moms & I find it offensive.

[Cataholic]

It is derogatory slang that slurs Irish Catholic Moms & I find it offensive.

Then, perhaps, you state that- WITHOUT slamming me. To somehow associate that phrase, and my use of it, with the other terms you suggested is pretty far stretched. How my education came into play is anyone's guess. I don't think you truly need a lesson on how education, upbringing and bias are not truly related, do you? The most educated can be prejudiced, and the most uneducated can be non-biased. To me, if you truly had doubt as to my intentions (which I doubt very much), you could only think of what I have posted in the last, what, 6 years, and say, "well, I can't really remember her ever speaking in a racist tone before, maybe I misunderstood her intentions?". Course, that isn't near as much fun as slamming me, is it?

I might add, off topic, that the term was used as a derogatory slang, two decades ago. It is a term, today, frequently used to describe anyone's children- regardless of race, creed or national origin, that came within 12 months of one another. Go check out a few parenting boards, or, even a twins board. The term is used more benignly that you have suggested. In fact, the struggle with the term today is that 12 months is too restrictive, and the phrase should apply to those with children born within 15 months of one another. Who would have thunk, eh?

Apparently, the most current trend is to call them "Palin Twins" based on Sarah Palin's opinions on abstinance and sex education.

In any event, you have every right to be offended, but, not to be offensive.

[pomtzu]

So I'm Italian and have been called a "WOP". Do I get offended and retaliate with more name calling or slurs??? - nope - why should I? I really think some people are overly sensitive and easily offended over trivial matters - really pretty darned thin-skinned IMO!!! Get upset over something that really matters - like the subject of this thread!!!

[sparks19]

So I'm Italian and have been called a "WOP". Do I get offended and retaliate with more name calling or slurs??? - nope - why should I? I really think some people are overly sensitive and easily offended over trivial matters - really pretty darned thin-skinned IMO!!! Get upset over something that really matters - like the subject of this thread!!!

This is way off topic but you just reminded me....

We used to rent a cottage every year in northern ontario and there was this restaurant owned by a frenchman and an italian and it was called... get this....

The Wop and Frog restaurant lol and the logo was a grog with a big black mustache and a puffy white chefs hat on LOL

[lizbud]

Sheesh, Liz...go find another target, would you? I don't do to well with the bullying thing. I should keep a record of every time you decide to get in another dig at me. If only I knew where the whole thing started I could attempt to go back and rectify it. I don't. And, since it has been going on for at least a year now, frankly, I am not that interested in searching it out.

Johanna, I honestly have no clue what you are talking about when you
say this.

I have no intention of dragging this on & on,etc.but I really would like
to know why you feel this way. Can we take this to pm? If not, okay, but
I would like to hear.

[Cataholic]

Johanna, I honestly have no clue what you are talking about when you
say this.

I have no intention of dragging this on & on,etc.but I really would like
to know why you feel this way. Can we take this to pm? If not, okay, but
I would like to hear.

Sure..but I won't be too available for a few days.

[lizbud]

Sure..but I won't be too available for a few days.

No problem. Look forward to talking with you when you have more time.

[Edwina's Secretary]

The things I miss! Sad, sad, sad....but not terribly surprising. Violence begets violence.