Why did you vote for Obama or not...?

[JenBKR]

Just for the record...there are not "sects" of Catholics. And the Catholic church is opposed to all artificial birth control.

Actually, there are. Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Lutheran, to name a few. Some are very strict and traditional, some more lenient. I believe that Lutherans are allowed birth contol.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Actually, there are. Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Lutheran, to name a few. Some are very strict and traditional, some more lenient. I believe that Lutherans are allowed birth contol.

No. Lutherans are not a sect of the Catholic faith. Martin Luther broke off from the Catholic faith hundred of years ago.

Christianity once meant Catholic. No longer. Not for hundreds of years.

There are Roman Catholics, Greek Orthodox Catholics, Russian Orthodox Catholics, Lutherans, Baptist, Episcopalians, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses and dozens and dozens of other religions under the overarching "Christians."

But they are not "sects" of The Catholic faith.

[JenBKR]

No. Lutherans are not a sect of the Catholic faith. Martin Luther broke off from the Catholic faith hundred of years ago.

Christianity once meant Catholic. No longer. Not for hundreds of years.

There are Roman Catholics, Greek Orthodox Catholics, Russian Orthodox Catholics, Lutherans, Baptist, Episcopalians, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses and dozens and dozens of other religions under the overarching "Christians."

But they are not "sects" of The Catholic faith.

In the sociology of religion a sect is generally a smaller religious or political group that has broken off from a larger group; for example from a large, well-established religious group, like a denomination, usually due to a dispute about doctrinal matters.


There are many groups outside the Roman Catholic church which are regarded as Catholic sects, such as the Community of the Lady of All Nations, the Palmarian Catholic Church, the Philippine Independent Church, the Brazilian Catholic Apostolic Church, the Free Catholic Church, the Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God and others

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sect



Many individual Christians and Christian denominations consider themselves "catholic" on the basis, in particular, of Apostolic Succession. They fall into four groups:

1.The Western and Eastern Churches of the Roman Catholic Church (often referred to simply as "the Catholic Church"). These understand "Catholic" to involve unity with the Bishop of Rome,[8] and hold that "the one Church of Christ ... subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the bishops in communion with him, although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure."[9]

2.Those others that, like the Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Old Catholic, Anglican, and some Lutheran and other denominations, claim unbroken Apostolic Succession from the early Church. Some of these identify themselves as the Catholic Church (e.g. the Orthodox Churches), while others see themselves as a constituent part of the Church (e.g. the Old Catholics, Anglicans).

3.Those who claim to be spiritual descendants of the Apostles but have no discernible institutional descent from the historic Church, and normally do not refer to themselves as catholic.

4.Those who have acknowledged a break in Apostolic Succession, but have restored it in order to be in full communion with bodies that have maintained the practice. Examples in this category include the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America and the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada vis-à-vis their Anglican and Old Catholic counterparts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholicism
Although the Lutheran World Federation has been in ecumenical dialogue with the Roman Catholic Church since shortly after the Second Vatican Council, it was not until 1999 that far-reaching ecumenical relations were established between the Lutheran World Federation and the Roman Catholic Church when they jointly issued a statement, the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification, that declared commonality of the Roman Catholic and Lutheran doctrines on Justification.[3]. While a number of Lutheran theologians saw this as a sign that the Roman Catholic Church was essentially adopting the Lutheran position, most Lutheran theologians disagreed, claiming that, considering the public documentation of the Catholic Church's position, this assertion does not hold up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutheran

And more on this page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholi...al_Catholicity

[Edwina's Secretary]

In the sociology of religion a sect is generally a smaller religious or political group that has broken off from a larger group; for example from a large, well-established religious group, like a denomination, usually due to a dispute about doctrinal matters.

Etc. etc. etc. I am sure the Lutherans will be very surprised to learn they are a sect of the Catholic Church.

I have no horse in this race but you sure do remind me of another member who will go to the internet search well and dance a firey dance to avoid admitting he is wrong about ANYTHING.

[JenBKR]

Etc. etc. etc. I am sure the Lutherans will be very surprised to learn they are a sect of the Catholic Church.

I have no horse in this race but you sure do remind me of another member who will go to the internet search well and dance a firey dance to avoid admitting he is wrong about ANYTHING.

Oh for crying out loud. You know what, forget it. I don't have time for this. You completely avoided my main point, and it took me all of two minutes to pull that information up. The main reason I did was because I thought that maybe I was mistaken, and I wanted to read about it. However, what I found supported what I had thought, so I provide links. Unlike you, I was not condescending or rude to you at all.