Why did you vote for Obama or not...?

[Puckstop31]

I recall, during my time in Somalia... Remember, this was 1993/1994

We would find large amounts of unsed comdoms, still in wrappers. They were given to the "skinnies" by UN sponsored aid organizations. Why were they not used? The "Great Satan" wanted them to use them. Their Clerics told them Allah would disown them if they did....

Never forget that what WE (the west) see as reasonable rarely applies to the average 3rd world nation...

[caseysmom]

I recall, during my time in Somalia... Remember, this was 1993/1994

We would find large amounts of unsed comdoms, still in wrappers. They were given to the "skinnies" by UN sponsored aid organizations. Why were they not used? The "Great Satan" wanted them to use them. Their Clerics told them Allah would disown them if they did....

Never forget that what WE (the west) see as reasonable rarely applies to the average 3rd world nation...

This is exactly what I meant by education, not knowing that having sex causes babies, rather knowing whom to trust and the knowledge to base those decisions, not being told if you do these things you will go to hell.

[JenBKR]

This is exactly what I meant by education, not knowing that having sex causes babies, rather knowing whom to trust and the knowledge to base those decisions, not being told if you do these things you will go to hell.

Exactly!

[carole]

Marigold where as i respect your view, i think you are the one being naive here,I agree 100 per cent they should not keep on having children they cannot afford, seems such a simple answer and solution, but it is not as simple as that,more complicated than we can imagine.

[Marigold2]

Being Lutheran I know that we are allowed to use birth control and do.
I guess I just expect too much from people. If a religon forbids birth control and your children are dying it's time to use your God given brain and say "What up with that" would a true, kind, just, forgiving, understanding God want this? I guess if you are brainwashed into thinking you will go to hell there isn't much help for you. Religon can often do more harm then good when not mixed with good ole fashioned common sense.
Sometimes the answer is simple. Be good, be kind, be smart. Don't follow everything a religon says, otherwise you follow a falsh belief.

[RICHARD]

Never forget that what WE (the west) see as reasonable rarely applies to the average 3rd world nation...

Thank You.

"We" have this effing elitist attitude about ourselves that people from around the planet have to laugh at.

IF you are forced to turn tricks to make a few bucks a month to make sure your kids get fed, you put your health and well being at risk, along with the chance that you will get knocked up because YOUR government/leaders/warlords don't give a flying shiat about you. Mix in some good ole tyme religion and you get what happens in the 'country of Africa' - extreme poverty.

It's way too easy to make a statement about a situation that you know nothing about. Some of us have walked among people and their world and it makes us appreciate all the stupidly simple things we all take for granted.

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The question is not why do these people keep having babies-It more like, "What will they do to keep them and themselves alive?"

There is nothing more powerful, that I have seen, than the love of a mother or a woman who has her back against the wall. I know that most of them will do anything for their families.

It's a shame that "we" have such a crappy, egotisical view of everyone else.

I love my country, but have to wonder about the people in it.


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Sorry kids!

You have to remember that s-e-x isn't the recreational sport that US "civilized" people think it is in 'the country of Africa'. More often than not, it's a way of life that keeps you in the game of life.

How sucky does that sound?

[caseysmom]

Thank You.

"We" have this effing elitist attitude about ourselves that people from around the planet have to laugh at.

IF you are forced to turn tricks to make a few bucks a month to make sure your kids get fed, you put your health and well being at risk, along with the chance that you will get knocked up because YOUR government/leaders/warlords don't give a flying shiat about you. Mix in some good ole tyme religion and you get what happens in the 'country of Africa' - extreme poverty.

It's way too easy to make a statement about a situation that you know nothing about. Some of us have walked among people and their world and it makes us appreciate all the stupidly simple things we all take for granted.

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The question is not why do these people keep having babies-It more like, "What will they do to keep them and themselves alive?"

There is nothing more powerful, that I have seen, than the love of a mother or a woman who has her back against the wall. I know that most of them will do anything for their families.

It's a shame that "we" have such a crappy, egotisical view of everyone else.

I love my country, but have to wonder about the people in it.


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Sorry kids!

You have to remember that s-e-x isn't the recreational sport that US "civilized" people think it is in 'the country of Africa'. More often than not, it's a way of life that keeps you in the game of life.

How sucky does that sound?

I totally agree with you especially this


It's a shame that "we" have such a crappy, egotisical view of everyone else.


The arrogance in marigold's post astounds me.

[sparks19]

I totally agree with you especially this


It's a shame that "we" have such a crappy, egotisical view of everyone else.


The arrogance in marigold's post astounds me.

I couldnt' agree more.

Unbelievable.

It's kind of funny because she talks about how these third world countries who have no source of education should just know better but here in the US and in Canada we HAVE all that education yet many people STILL get pregnant because they just don't use it or "don't have access" to it.

but we expect 3rd world countries who don't get the education to be better about it than we are.

[Edwina's Secretary]

It's kind of funny because she talks about how these third world countries who have no source of education should just know better but here in the US and in Canada we HAVE all that education yet many people STILL get pregnant because they just don't use it or "don't have access" to it.

Yes, I can think of a recent example of this!

[blue]

Yes, I can think of a recent example of this!

And Im sure it brought you great joy.

[RICHARD]

A little more on our FA attitude-

On this thread there is a pretty decent cross section of what "America" is all about. We have all these wonderful ideas, fashions and fads that travel all around the world that suck everyone else into out ideals, waste and stupidity.

Where else in the world do parents buy kids a cell phone so the little effer can disrupt class, get it lost, stolen or broken? We have the luxury of sending a kid to his room to suffer the consequences for misbehaving, right?

Yep, Ipod, Blackberry, PC, XBox, cell phone, DVD player and all that stuff in the room?

Turn off all your crap and live out of a tent for a week? Cook over a bovine dung fire? Poop into a hole in the ground? How's about you women for those few days outta the month? Call in sick and lie in bed with the remote.

Then think about your 3-4 days of cramps and what are the kids going to eat, what you will cook for them, the cow crap you have to gather for a fire, water to fetch-did I forget the cows to milk? Sheep to herd? Oh please, It's just a big s-e-x party for all the people in the country formerly known as Africa. IT's just s-e-x everyday, pop out kids and have more fun.


Here's a one for you.

How many of us have ever used a wood out house and picked the splinters outta the back of your thighs for a while after? A campground crapper made out of brick and stinking to high heaven was better than THAT pain in the as----uh, thighs.

'We' will dismiss a set of people by making some silly statement about how they live and why they don't get religion/BC/education/smart about s-e-x and really never investigate why they are stuck in the situation they are in.

It's more arrogance than ignorance. Uninformed people will learn, vain people might learn, but what is more dangerous? Stupid people who act smart or smart people that act stupid?

The old saying that KNOWLEDGE IS POWER is apropo these days.

People here in the U.S. know we are getting screwed over by some people in office. Some people across the planet don't even know who is in charge-no one to blame, no one to set 'the record' right, no government, advocate, voice to speak for them.

And because we can, let's just bypass the governments that make their lives hell and blame it on the people who live there. IT's far easier, we don't have to beef with anyone and we can keep our soldiers home.

I have to laugh at all you fricking gomers out there who believe that everyone is going to be our friend now that we will have a new government seated.
Every AH will be looking toward our new benevolent 'change' in political position now.

And what a position it will be....Can you say BOHICA?

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Sometimes religion is all the hope the people in third world countries have. They have been taught by their parents to believe certain things. Remember, they have no Internet access and may not have much contact with the world outside their communities. How can they think for themselves and know what they believe in if they have never heard there are even options?

Reminds me of a news clip I saw a few weeks ago. In one of the poor countries, they were starving to death. They grew amazing potato crops, however. They would not eat the potatoes themselves, preferring to starve to death just because they had the belief that the potatoes would make them fat. This makes no sense to me but apparently it does to them.
(I think this was on CNN but couldn't find the link)

[Edwina's Secretary]

And Im sure it brought you great joy.

Oh! Nice eye roll. No. I find unwed teenage mothers one of the bigger problems in this country. An unwed teenage mother runs a greater chance of living in poverty, living off welfare, raising children who are more likely to have many, many problems.

I am an advocate of adoption for the child of an unwed teenage mother. I find nothing admirable in an unwed teenage mother. I find it sad.

If I could work in any field...I would work to convince teenagers that there is more to life than getting pregnant and having your baby as your date to the prom.

[sparks19]

Yes, I can think of a recent example of this!

Care to put your "recent example of this" out there?

[caseysmom]

The United States has a huge teen pregnancy problem, wouldn't expect that from this country but it exists. I don't think we have any room to look down our noses at anyone.

And since it is out there, as much as I didn't agree with Sarah Palin on a lot of issues its is not her fault her daughter is pregnant nor does it mean she is a bad mother. Walk in her shoes before you cast judgement, no mother wants her kid to go through that. We nurture and teach till we are blue in the face but when it comes right down to it our kids are individuals.