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    I don't know....

    I grew up being allowed to watch just about anything. I was and still am a horror flick junkie. by the age of 11 I think I had seen just about every horror flick out there lol.

    I wasn't sheltered from sexual scenes.... although I was usually watching movies with my parents and having a "sex scene" was sometimes incredibly uncomfortable lmao even though my mom and I would openly talk about sex.

    and I don't think I am a violent hateful, sex crazed adult.

    I don't think that movies or video games make kids violent or sexual deviants. I think it's lack of education and lack of parental involvement that results in this.




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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks19 View Post

    I don't think that movies or video games make kids violent or sexual deviants. I think it's lack of education and lack of parental involvement that results in this.

    I think VVGs deaden (pun intended) the person to seeing violence and reacting to it. Now, I do think that the kids that start off being "tilted" end up getting tipped over when they are exposed to violent stuff.

    You do have a 90-95% group of normal people who are exposed to VVGs and the normal amount of 'sex' in the media-you have to remember also that a Calvin Klein/A&F/Vic's Secret are the norm for everyday advertising. Hacker movies/horror scenes are more sought out than being adverted on a billboard.

    The 5%ers are the ones that have a problem with sex and murder movies. I have always had a problem watching a sex scene with any kids or parents in the room.

    Before a good horror movie or romantic flick had implied scenes where you didn't see too much of anything. Now it's anything goes.

    go figure?

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    When I have kids I'd rather them watch the violent than sex. My reason? Violent movies can be a teaching mechanism (See that? That's NOT okay. Ect.... But of course, watch a Disney flick afterwards so they have no nightmares. lol) Sex, on the other hand is natural, God meant for it to happen, but it's not something I'd want to expose my child to until a certain age.

    It just seems like to me, I'd rather over expose my kids to something where I can say "that's wrong" and teach them, than over expose them to something that really isn't wrong, so I can't tell them that, and they grow up (in EXTREME cases, NOT saying this happens in anything but 0.05% of people) to be pervs and rape people or are sex addicts because they've had an overexposure to sex.

    I know most of this probably doesn't make sense to you. It makes sense in my head I just can't find the words to express it the way I want. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sumbirdy View Post
    When I have kids I'd rather them watch the violent than sex. My reason? Violent movies can be a teaching mechanism (See that? That's NOT okay. Ect.... But of course, watch a Disney flick afterwards so they have no nightmares. lol) Sex, on the other hand is natural, God meant for it to happen, but it's not something I'd want to expose my child to until a certain age.

    It just seems like to me, I'd rather over expose my kids to something where I can say "that's wrong" and teach them, than over expose them to something that really isn't wrong, so I can't tell them that, and they grow up (in EXTREME cases, NOT saying this happens in anything but 0.05% of people) to be pervs and rape people or are sex addicts because they've had an overexposure to sex.

    I know most of this probably doesn't make sense to you. It makes sense in my head I just can't find the words to express it the way I want. lol.
    It makes sense, thank you. The only part I disagree with is using a violent film to teach "wrong" to, unless it's a film like American History X. There's a lesson to be learned from that film. But, ultra violent movies like the Saw movies, or most slasher movies, I guess I just don't see the lesson there (unless you just want to say, before the movie, "everything that happens in this movie is wrong, don't ever put your head in a guillotine...now enjoy!").
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    Quote Originally Posted by finn's mom View Post
    But, ultra violent movies like the Saw movies, or most slasher movies, I guess I just don't see the lesson there (unless you just want to say, before the movie, "everything that happens in this movie is wrong, don't ever put your head in a guillotine...now enjoy!").
    I agree. I do not think children need to sit and watch two hours of torture, murder and dismemberment in order to get the message, "Now, Junior, cutting off someone's limbs with a chain saw is naughty, don't do it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisterdog View Post
    I agree. I do not think children need to sit and watch two hours of torture, murder and dismemberment in order to get the message, "Now, Junior, cutting off someone's limbs with a chain saw is naughty, don't do it."


    That's not what I'm talking about at all. I'm talking about the less violent movies (you know, guns and fighting) There's NO WAY I would sit a kid in front of a really gory movie, nor would I sit them in front of a show full of sex.

    My earlier explanation of why I would choose violence over sex stems from personal experience. My aunt and uncle have three children (two boys and a girl) who they exposed to both types of movies. None of them were violent, but the girl decided she wanted to be a prostitute-at the age of three. She would go up to complete strangers and say "For 20 bucks you can have the whole night"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks19 View Post
    I don't know....

    I grew up being allowed to watch just about anything. I was and still am a horror flick junkie. by the age of 11 I think I had seen just about every horror flick out there lol.

    I wasn't sheltered from sexual scenes.... although I was usually watching movies with my parents and having a "sex scene" was sometimes incredibly uncomfortable lmao even though my mom and I would openly talk about sex.

    and I don't think I am a violent hateful, sex crazed adult.

    I don't think that movies or video games make kids violent or sexual deviants. I think it's lack of education and lack of parental involvement that results in this.

    I agree with you. I have watched all of it, and have not been negatively affected by it as far as my function in daily life. I will say that I'm probably more desensitized. Of course, I still cry when one of my fish dies. So I'm not really desensitized much, either.

    I don't think that movies or games make kids crazy, either...

    Maybe you're not really directing this at my original post, but I wasn't making that point...just wondering why it seems like people are ok with ultra violence but nudity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finn's mom View Post
    I agree with you. I have watched all of it, and have not been negatively affected by it as far as my function in daily life. I will say that I'm probably more desensitized. Of course, I still cry when one of my fish dies. So I'm not really desensitized much, either.

    I don't think that movies or games make kids crazy, either...

    Maybe you're not really directing this at my original post, but I wasn't making that point...just wondering why it seems like people are ok with ultra violence but nudity.
    Yeah I don't really get that either. I don't think one is owrse than the other.

    But if I have to venture a guess... I think it's that a lot of parents don't want to have "the talk" with their kids. They want to leave it up to the schools to teach and there is a lot of controversy about what the schools should teach.




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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks19 View Post
    and I don't think I am a violent hateful, sex crazed adult.
    nah.... you're just Canadian (hrm... which is worse?! ).

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    I think it depends on the culture as well. Here we condone the violent movies, yet most movies involving sex, or heaven forbid a MALE full frontal (sorry, but I'm for equal opportunity full frontals) are edited for the US.

    Back in 1987 and 1988, I studied overseas in Stockholm, Sweden. I went to a bunch of movie openings (which were a HUGE deal over there). There were many violent films banned in Sweden. Robocop, for example. We saw that on a bootleg tape. Other violent films were edited and you missed about 45 mins. of the film.

    Sex films, on the other hand, were not edited. I watched Angel Heart over there, with Lisa Bonet, and holy cow!!! I saw scenes that we did not have in it over here when I saw it later at home.


    I'm not saying I think we should have more sex or more violent films, just saying how cultures differ. I do think that if there are going to be sex scenes, and they are showing the body nude, they should give equal opportunity to both male and female. Sorry, but it pisses me off that they will show almost every part of a woman's body, yet heaven forbid they dip below the navel on a man. What is that all about?! OOOH... we'll just get soooo turned on, we won't know what to do with ourselves or what? Do they think women are too delicate to see that, or is it just that they like to objectify women? It so annoys me.

    I am not a big fan of scary movies. I live alone, and those movies freak me out. I get nightmares like crazy even with silly shows sometimes. Ever watch "Taboo" on Nat. Geo?? Holy crap, some of that stuff is just crazy! Still gives me nightmares with some of the freaky stuff, and the stuff they eat makes me sick to my stomach usually.

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