Alaska funded Palin kids' travel

[jennielynn1970]

BTW... I like dancing

Can you dance like this???

[blue]

Can you dance like this???

Very nice chop, for bringing the funnay.

[jennielynn1970]

October 23, 2008
Look Is the Same; the Labels Have Changed
By ERIC WILSON

When Sarah Palin arrived at the governor’s mansion in Juneau, Alaska, for the first time in December 2006, she wore a pink turtleneck, a preppy track jacket and what appeared to be a knockoff Burberry scarf. She had often campaigned in fleece. Introduced as Senator John McCain’s running mate in Dayton, Ohio, in August, she wore red pumps that cost $89 from Naughty Monkey, a brand whose target audience is teenagers.

As a vice-presidential candidate, Ms. Palin’s look — which has apparently undergone a costly makeover — has not changed dramatically from a “Working Girl” formula of authoritative jackets paired with feminine skirts that seem calculated to suggest that she is ready to go to work on Day 1.

The Republicans spent about $150,000 on a clothing makeover for Ms. Palin and her family, according to financial disclosure forms. But looking at the before-and-after photos, it was not readily apparent what Ms. Palin got, exactly, from her shopping spree at Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue.

What the number $150,000 suggests is that Ms. Palin traded up to designer versions of the clothes she wore before stepping onto the national stage, a surprising implication for a candidate who emphasizes her appeal to working-class voters.

“My first reaction when I heard about this was, ‘Honey, I could have dressed you for a lot less than that,’ ” said Cindi Leive, the editor in chief of Glamour magazine, which asked readers on Wednesday to vote in an online poll whether the expenses were too high; 72 percent said they were. “In general, she looks terrific,” Ms. Leive said, “but if you asked me to figure out where the $150,000 went, I’m not sure I could tell you.”

It is not yet clear whether Ms. Palin chose her new wardrobe or worked with stylists and other advisers, or what message her clothes were intended to broadcast. In fact, most of her bracelet sleeve jackets are so generic-looking that they could have come from any of the favored designers of Washington politicians: Oscar de la Renta, Escada and St. John.

The square ivory jacket she wore during her acceptance speech at the Republican Convention was a $2,500 silk shantung Valentino, reportedly bought at Saks. But the black wrap jacket she wore for the vice-presidential debate in St. Louis was a Tahari suit, according to a spokesman for the line, and costs less than $200; her shoes, according to the sleuths at ShoeaholicsAnonymous.com, were red imitation croc pumps from Kate Spade.

To her credit, Ms. Palin has been wearing those suits, and those awkward-yet-efficient, zip-close jackets (nothing says maverick like red leather) repeatedly over the last month, implying a sense of frugality that would belie the credit card statements of the Republican National Committee. To be scrupulously nonpartisan, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., her Democratic counterpart, seems to have a deep wardrobe of ties.

Some fashion executives went so far as to defend Ms. Palin for helping to support the economy.

“There’s no upside to looking frumpy or dowdy,” said Simon Doonan, the creative director of Barneys New York, where the campaign reported spending only $789.72, or enough for almost one outfit.

[sparks19]

Can you dance like this???

yeah right... maybe at night in my dreams I could dance like that lol.

I couldn't even wear the outfit and fake it lol.

LOL BTW... Obama can't dance like that either. I saw him try on Ellen then his wife came on and shamed him lol.

[Lady's Human]

ES, if you're going to put this in terms of men not knowing how women communicate, then why don't women learn to communicate with men (after all, you speak as if it's a disability, and in this society those who don't have the disability need to accomodate those who have it) rather than vice versa?

Funny, I have no trouble communicating with women on the job, or normally in any other interactions. Only HERE do I seem to have those problems. Notice I used a very, very specific reference for comparison. It's not a general reference at all.

It's not a communications issue, it's a couple of people who feel the need to disparage those who disagree with them, so they can continue to do their "superiority dance" blind to everything else around them.

[Edwina's Secretary]

ES, if you're going to put this in terms of men not knowing how women communicate, then why don't women learn to communicate with men (after all, you speak as if it's a disability, and in this society those who don't have the disability need to accomodate those who have it) rather than vice versa?

Funny, I have no trouble communicating with women on the job, or normally in any other interactions. Only HERE do I seem to have those problems. Notice I used a very, very specific reference for comparison. It's not a general reference at all.

It's not a communications issue, it's a couple of people who feel the need to disparage those who disagree with them, so they can continue to do their "superiority dance" blind to everything else around them.

LH...I certainly don't want you to learn anything new if you don't want to!

However...I would like you to go back to my post. I said men and women communicate differently. Disability? No. How women talk and men talk is different and things can get confused or misunderstood because of it.

For example...in this thread I cannot find where anyone criticized WHAT Ms. Palin wears...what was criticized and made fun of was the amount of money that was spent, the hypocrisy, and where the money came from.

You called it a hen party and a bunch of old ladies playing bingo. I am guessing those are not compliments?

You don't think what was being discussed are legitimate topics. I think they go to the question of character. Obviously some others do as well.

So instead of offering a specific reason why these are not legitimate concerns you...

disparage those who disagree with you, so you can continue to do your "superiority dance"

[lizbud]

However...I would like you to go back to my post. I said men and women communicate differently. Disability? No. How women talk and men talk is different and things can get confused or misunderstood because of it.

Well said. Now this is about the most dispassionate, legitimate, explanation
of communication styles as you will ever find. The fact that men & women
use different ways of speaking/writing than men, is just a proven fact.

It's only a disability if you make it one.

[K9soul]

I suspect it's more differing political views than a gender issue. There are plenty of left wing men out there, just not on this board, so somehow conflicts here end up a men versus women situation. I'm sure the guys here would be horrified at the blog entries of one of my favorite authors who is very outspoken in his political views . http://grrm.livejournal.com/

Plus, I think internet/text communication is quite different than in work or face-to-face interactions of daily life.

[lizbud]

Plus, I think internet/text communication is quite different than in work or face-to-face interactions of daily life.

Very true, but it can come down to a communication problem. For instance,
a man & women can have the same political views, but communicate their
thoughts in different ways.(styles)

[Karen]

I am surprised, quite, that you think LH cannot communicate with women. As the youngest of the family, he had a strong-willed mother and two older sisters - as well as an older brother, but the age spread is such that he was in college by the time LH hit kindergarten.

He was raised to communicate well with, and respect women.

Now, by the way I believe it was Richard, not LH who used the term "hen fest." I have never thought of "hen party" as a derogatory term, frankly, just a descriptive one of what often happens in a gathering of women - we talk, we chatter, the more of us, the more noise we make! Hen=female. Not that men don't gab, but their voices tend to be lower pitched, so it's a lower rumble of noise. A gab fest is a gab fest, but a hen fest is all girls.

[sparks19]

I am surprised, quite, that you think LH cannot communicate with women. As the youngest of the family, he had a strong-willed mother and two older sisters - as well as an older brother, but the age spread is such that he was in college by the time LH hit kindergarten.

He was raised to communicate well with, and respect women.

Now, by the way I believe it was Richard, not LH who used the term "hen fest." I have never thought of "hen party" as a derogatory term, frankly, just a descriptive one of what often happens in a gathering of women - we talk, we chatter, the more of us, the more noise we make! Hen=female. Not that men don't gab, but their voices tend to be lower pitched, so it's a lower rumble of noise. A gab fest is a gab fest, but a hen fest is all girls.

They don't gab if there is a ball game on TV lol.

I find men are experts at communicating for an afternoon where not one word is uttered except "anyone want another beer while I'm up"

Like when we have a family gathering and all the cousins end up in the living room watching football. The ladies are in the dining room (usually indulging in the desserts lol) talking it up... and the living room is completely silent unless someone scores lol.

and when a group of women get together there is usually more than one conversation going on.. the talking gets loud, it gets fast and it gets high pitched and it SOUNDS like a hen house

[Edwina's Secretary]

He was raised to communicate well with, and respect women.

Now, by the way I believe it was Richard, not LH who used the term "hen fest."

A spirited defense of your little brother Karen! And my apologies if I misattributed one of the demeaning insults used against women.

He did use "Old French Canuck women at bingo on Friday night." "Bunch of old biddies at the bingo hall."

I have to tell you...my strong-willed mother would have washed out my brother's mouth with soap if he had been so insulting to women!