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    excuses?

    LOL no excuses.

    I just don't dislike people for what they have or what they wear. I may dislike someone for their actions... but not the action of buy a suit that I couldn't afford.

    there are lots of things to like or dislike about a person. choosing to get your panties in a twist over how much one spends on clothing... I just don't understand it. just seems... nitpiky and petty to me.

    yeah... it came from donations to the RNC... but I find it foolish to donate to any campaign anyway because I find the uses for that money to be useless... like all of those LAME commercials that everyone is SO sick of. Staffing all those people to call and harass you at home to ask you for your support. I think these are all pretty sad uses for the donations. so does it really come as a shock that campaigns are putting money into makeup and hair (OH yes... even the men wear the make up and have the hair done... even though they may deny it lol)


    and I just don't understand the logic that if you have the opportunity handed to you to shop at a world famous store and buy clothes that you haven't been able to purchase before then you MUST NOT be a REAL person.

    I think this thread just proves exactly why they expect the candidates to dress to the nines... Image is everything so you BETTER look your VERY VERY best. YOu can say or do whatever you like but if someone doesn't like the way you look then you are on the chopping block

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks19 View Post
    there are lots of things to like or dislike about a person. choosing to get your panties in a twist over how much one spends on clothing... I just don't understand it. just seems... nitpiky and petty to me.
    I wouldn't care, but it wasn't her money. I can understand if she wanted to get a new wardrobe because she's getting a "new position".. you dress for the part when you change jobs. I get that. She just didn't spend her money for her new position. She spent other people's money.

    yeah... it came from donations to the RNC... but I find it foolish to donate to any campaign anyway because I find the uses for that money to be useless...
    So, the money that was spent from the donations for her outfits WAS foolish. You agree with that then, correct?


    and I just don't understand the logic that if you have the opportunity handed to you to shop at a world famous store and buy clothes that you haven't been able to purchase before then you MUST NOT be a REAL person.
    So, if you have the opportunity to take advantage of people, you should? Is that what you're saying? That if you are handed money and said "Here, we know you should be paying for this, but hey, they gave us the money, so even though we know ETHICALLY it's wrong, what the hey, do it anyway!"


    I think this thread just proves exactly why they expect the candidates to dress to the nines... Image is everything so you BETTER look your VERY VERY best. YOu can say or do whatever you like but if someone doesn't like the way you look then you are on the chopping block
    Again, you dress for the position you want to be in. Normally, however, people do that with their own funds. Not other people's money.

    She wants to be in that position, maybe she should have spent her own money to look that part. I'm sure she can max out some credit cards, right??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenn_librarian View Post
    I wouldn't care, but it wasn't her money. I can understand if she wanted to get a new wardrobe because she's getting a "new position".. you dress for the part when you change jobs. I get that. She just didn't spend her money for her new position. She spent other people's money.
    Yeah... Other people's money that they DONATED for the RNC's USE. So when you donate money to a cause do you get to dictate how they use it? Likely not. it goes to whatever they see fit to use it for... kind of like our taxes


    QUOTE=jenn_librarian;2079914]So, the money that was spent from the donations for her outfits WAS foolish. You agree with that then, correct?[/QUOTE]

    I think just about all the bull they WASTE campaign money on is foolish yes... and YES I think spending campaign money on expensive clothes is foolish. However, this thread shows me WHY they feel the need to do that. Had she bought a $30 suit at Walmart people would complain "She can't spend a little extra on an outfit and we are supposed to believe she can be VP when she can't even dress in nice clothes and supports a company like Walmart... the horror" people just look at their appearance ... SAD that material things are what seem to matter most at a time like this.


    Quote Originally Posted by jenn_librarian View Post
    So, if you have the opportunity to take advantage of people, you should? Is that what you're saying? That if you are handed money and said "Here, we know you should be paying for this, but hey, they gave us the money, so even though we know ETHICALLY it's wrong, what the hey, do it anyway!"
    yes jenn... I'm for taking ADVANTAGE of people seriously... am I new here? ridiculous. I do not believe for a SECOND that people sent in a list of what their donations should be spent on. You donate money... it goes to whatever they feel is nessecary. It may not be what YOU want... but again... apparently style matters over substance or we wouldn't have this debate going on. We look at what they LOOK like rather than WHO they are. kind of sad. but again... I believe taht donating to a campaign is a WASTE of your money. What does it accomplish?


    Quote Originally Posted by jenn_librarian View Post
    Again, you dress for the position you want to be in. Normally, however, people do that with their own funds. Not other people's money.

    She wants to be in that position, maybe she should have spent her own money to look that part. I'm sure she can max out some credit cards, right??

    OOOOOOOH but then she wouldn't be a respsonbile PARENT. spending her family money on a wardrobe the RNC says she needs. She's already on the chopping block for running for VP with *gasp* children. Imagine if she spent all their family money on clothes that they demand she has.

    Rock and a hard place. someone is always going to complain.

    Yet no one complains about how much they spend on commercials that are POINTLESS and accomplish NOTHING. THAT'S OK right?

    LOL we apparently need to agree to disagree here because I just CANNOT get on board with the idea that if she has nice clothes that it means she is a horrible person. DANG her for havin those clothes.




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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks19 View Post
    LOL we apparently need to agree to disagree here because I just CANNOT get on board with the idea that if she has nice clothes that it means she is a horrible person. DANG her for havin those clothes.
    Is this a round dance or a square dance? Or do you just not read what you don't want to read?

    Once again...I know what she is...a mean-spirited, not too educated or learned woman who has drunk for many, many years from the public trough she claims to disdain. In other words...a dull hypocrite.

    I don't care what she wears....(for the third or fourth time...)

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    Anybody know what the DNC spent on Biden's wardrobe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Is this a round dance or a square dance? Or do you just not read what you don't want to read?

    Once again...I know what she is...a mean-spirited, not too educated or learned woman who has drunk for many, many years from the public trough she claims to disdain. In other words...a dull hypocrite.

    I don't care what she wears....(for the third or fourth time...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks19 View Post
    She's already on the chopping block for running for VP with *gasp* children.
    I realize you might not know this....not being an American and all...

    But she is not the first woman to run for vp...nor the first woman to run for vp who also had children.

    That would have been Geraldine Ferrero. In 1984. She has three children.

    Her selection gave her running mate - Walter Mondale - a bump in the polls. It did not last until the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    That would have been Geraldine Ferrero. In 1984. She has three children.
    Do you know what the ages of her children where in 1984?

    EDIT: I found it. In 1984 her children where 18, 22, and 24. Not a fair comparison of the 2 canidates.
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    ES, I haven't commented on Ayers or the "reverend" Wright because I share the concerns of those who brought it up as an issue. Sen. Obama has chosen to associate with a terrorist and a bigot, which shows serious flaws in judgement.

    I also have doubts about the judgement of Sen. McCain and his choice of running mate, but it doesn't have a damned thing to do with what she's wearing.

    Frankly, if I could pull the lever for "none of the above", I would.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    ES, I haven't commented on Ayers or the "reverend" Wright because I share the concerns of those who brought it up as an issue. Sen. Obama has chosen to associate with a terrorist and a bigot, which shows serious flaws in judgement.

    I also have doubts about the judgement of Sen. McCain and his choice of running mate, but it doesn't have a damned thing to do with what she's wearing.

    Frankly, if I could pull the lever for "none of the above", I would.
    What about the judgement of Gov Palin...in accepting all that loot? That is what this thread is about. Sorry the humor and fun we were having with it confused you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks19 View Post
    yes jenn... I'm for taking ADVANTAGE of people
    hehe, it was me being sarcastic and a smart ass...

    I kinda like being in an ornery mood.

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    Jenn, I noticed the ornery mood. It's an improvement


    Grace,

    If it bothers you so much, simply don't read it any longer.
    I started reading it because the OP brought up something that COULD have been pertinent to the ISSUES, but it quickly veered off course.

    My apologies for intruding on your bingo game.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    I started reading it because the OP brought up something that COULD have been pertinent to the ISSUES, but it quickly veered off course.
    Also issues that keep getting ignored, like keeping the state funded plane being more expensive then taking commercial flights, that state Congresional leaders also take per diem payments in their own districts, the current AK gov driving herself and either her or her husband cooking for her family instead of having a personal driver and chef (perks the previous gov enjoyed), or the former AK gov using state funds for flights for his family.

    I believe NObama is using campaign funds to fly to HI to visit his grandmother. Whether he uses the campaign jet or commercial travel it, like Palin's new wardrobe, is a non issue as they are using campaign funds for the trip.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post

    I started reading it because the OP brought up something that COULD have been pertinent to the ISSUES, but it quickly veered off course.

    My apologies for intruding on your bingo game.
    LH...I think I see the problem here. Men and Women communicate differently. And you seem to filter women's conversation through your very male/military paradigm. So rather than being insulted by your demeaning expression of how women talk...I'll suggest some reading for you to help you understand.

    Deborah Tannen Phd is considered the pioneer in the study of the differences in communication styles between men and woman. She has written some excellent books on the subject. Available on Barnes and Noble as well as many other book sellers.

    Another expert in the area is Anthony J. Ipsaro, Phd. He approaches the subject from the viewpoint of a white male. He uses Tannen's works and created a phd program in Men's Studies (as he says...Why only Women's Studies??) You can find some of his work on the internet.

    I hired him a couple times for workplace training programs. What was interesting was men -- who thought they understood women because they have a mother, a wife, daughters, whatever -- were the most impacted by the program. I remember after the first session going out for drinks with a group and the choruses of "I never knew!" "Oh my gosh!" etc. etc.

    So instead of calling us "hens" and "bingo playing old ladies" and other attempts at disparagement...maybe learn about how we communicate? Edit...I left out old biddies
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparks19 View Post

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