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    If other countires aren't trying to influence our internal politics, why did Sen. Obama make a CAMPAIGN TRIP abroad?

    Seems odd for someone running for the US Presidency to make a campaign stump speech in Berlin. Unless he thought he was going to garner votes with that little junket, it doesn't make much sense.

    BTW, Pres. Carter counting votes? Now there's something to inspire confidence.
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    World Government

    Lets skip into the future. What would you all think of a World Government? Could it be in the future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonny View Post
    Lets skip into the future. What would you all think of a World Government? Could it be in the future?
    It IS in our future.

    It won't be good. It CAN'T be good.
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    I find it not only interesting, but relevant as well.

    If EVERYONE else at a dinner party tells you that you have spinach between your teeth and your toliet paper stuck on your shoe ... what are you going to do? Take heed of the unanimous majority telling you that you are being an idiot and fix the situation? Or say, "Ha! What do all of you know? Your opinions are irrelevant!" and continue mingling around the room, with your spinach and your TP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisterdog View Post
    If EVERYONE else at a dinner party tells you that you have spinach between your teeth and your toliet paper stuck on your shoe ... what are you going to do?

    You are an idiot because you have spinach on your teeth or toilet paper on your shoe?

    That's funny.

    I can hardly wait to see a woman who has lipstick on her teeth, or her blouse isn't tucked into her pants or skirt or her bra strap is showing.

    I''ll be sure to lean over and tell her what her problem is and remind her that she may be an idiot.

    It's all in the way a person is approached. The sledgehammer to drive a tack is they fastest way to be ignored. IT's no wonder we ignore most of the "helpful" hints from overseas.

    Think about it. They could be superpowers too, it just takes a second to look in the mirror or a peek at their shoes.

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    Sledgehammer....invasion....I think I am seeing the light.

    Perhaps the fact that we have used the "Sledgehammer" so often causes apprehension about our intentions?

    Shah of Iran, Pinochet, Saddam (when we put him in and when we took him out)

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    In Saddam's case, Sara, we didn't quite put him in ..........

    He murdered he opposition party.

    He was an assasin before he came to power, and took power the same way. We were dealing with him in the '70s and 80's because on the surface he was the lesser of two evils, the other evil being Russian control of the Gulf region.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    If other countires aren't trying to influence our internal politics, why did Sen. Obama make a CAMPAIGN TRIP abroad?

    Seems odd for someone running for the US Presidency to make a campaign stump speech in Berlin. Unless he thought he was going to garner votes with that little junket, it doesn't make much sense.

    BTW, Pres. Carter counting votes? Now there's something to inspire confidence.
    Speaking of not making sense. Obama's speech in Berlin was to encourage other countries to influence our internal policies. Okee dokee....

    Are you suggesting Obama thought German citizens can vote in the US?

    Perhaps he shared your concern for their lack of knowledge about our internal politics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    If other countires aren't trying to influence our internal politics, why did Sen. Obama make a CAMPAIGN TRIP abroad?

    Seems odd for someone running for the US Presidency to make a campaign stump speech in Berlin. Unless he thought he was going to garner votes with that little junket, it doesn't make much sense.

    Just for giggles, what is your source for believing Obama's trip was in fact
    a Campaign trip?
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    But use of the landmark apparently was vetoed by German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who a spokesman Wednesday said disapproved of plans to co-opt it as a "campaign backdrop."
    that might be one clue.........another might be to ask yourself when the last time a JUNIOR US senator made a foreign trip abroad making stump speeches at every available venue......

    Or when the last time a US Seator made a trip abroad.....and cancelled a planned visit with wounded troop because the US Military refused to allow reporters to accompany him to the hospital.......
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    Or when the last time a US Seator made a trip abroad.....and cancelled a planned visit with wounded troop because the US Military refused to allow reporters to accompany him to the hospital.......
    That is Bull and you know it. That disinformation was cleaned up by the military brass.

    I'm surprised at you. You usually go with the truth.

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    It wasn't bull, and the cleanup you speak of was a pretty lousy attempt at damage control after the fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    That is Bull and you know it. That disinformation was cleaned up by the military brass.

    I'm surprised at you. You usually go with the truth.

    That's what I thought too, but apparently not this time.

    I think he's just really, really pissed off because Colin Powell endorsed
    Obama & dissed both Bush & McCain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    that might be one clue.........another might be to ask yourself when the last time a JUNIOR US senator made a foreign trip abroad making stump speeches at every available venue......

    It would be the last time, that a Senator was running for President & didn't
    want to be known as stranger to Europe. We do have allies over there, remember?
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    Actually, the endorsement of the former Sec. State means little to nothing to me.

    There's a difference between a Senator making a trip to speak with leaders, and a Senator speaking at rock concerts in downtown Berlin. I don't think Chancellor Merkel was in attendance.
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