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Perhaps Kelly you heard what some Orange County Republican group published yesterday? An Anti-Obama flier -- showed him with watermelon, fried chicken and ribs. I heard a member of the group (or perhaps the husband of a member...not sure) defending it as no different than spaghetti and meatballs.
At some of Ms. Palin's rallies, people have yelled out "traitor" "terrorist" and "kill him" in reference to Obama.
Does that bother you at all?
And Taz', too
I truly hope that the Presidential candidates do not allow themselves to be distracted from the issues. If it is as easy as calling a candidate a name in order to get him to spend time talking about something other than political issues, then they will not have time to focus on the issues. You may find this one to be the most important issue and the one that should be addressed. Someone else will find something else said by someone not connected with Obama to be the issue to be addressed, and so on. No, the candidates and their staff should be the ones who decide to which issues/comments they are going respond. If they decide some statements are not worth commenting on, that is their decision. Personally, I feel if the comments have no bearing on what he has or is able to do politically, they should not be addressed. I cannot tell you how strongly I believe that any attention to Mr. Farrakhan's statements are nothing more than misdirection of voters attention. However, having said that, if you don't like the decisions he makes do not vote for him. But the decision on what should or should not be considered issues to be addressed should be only his.
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The 'messiah' angle came up at that ALfred E Neuman roast they attended, also I heard two news programs refer to him as the messiah-Fox News L.A. and another cable news channel.
I do not follow any religion- But to think, suggest or speculate that any 'human' could possibly be elevated to god status is insulting and funny, to say the least.
This is another way that people are trying to ingratiate themselves to BO-by pushing their followers, be they a religion, race, economic segment to put him in office. They can come back to claim their part in a Dem win and pressure him to side with them on political/social/economic issues.
It happens all the time. An official put into a seat of government gets put on the spot with, "I helped you win, now do this for me!" And should they balk at the request they will get the "You aren't -------- enough" and dragged across the media as sell outs.
Just watch.
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And this happens in no other party?Originally Posted by RICHARD
And Ginger's Mom...well said. Far better than I could!
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Thank you for your explaination.I respectfully disagree with the above sentence though. As I said before, I'm registered Republican, but because the candidates individually I've seen thus far align more with my values, NOT because I decided to be Republican (No hidden meaning here - everyone has their own way of choosing their parties.)
I believe the American people vote on the issues HOW they see the candidates in relation to those issues. Just because I'm registered Republican doesn't mean that candidate agrees with what is important to me. If there is a Democratic candidate that aligns more with what I feel is more important, I should be able to vote for that person. I agree with that the parties tend to have different ideas, but our rights as American voters give us exactly that right, to CHOOSE who we want as our leader/s.
Thank you for explaining this to me. While I didn't mean that his supporters were like sheep in any way, I do see what my comment implicates.It is not how his supporters see him, but a detractors way of making them seem like sheep instead of thinking people who have made an intelligent reasoned decision.
I guess I would just ask that you do not judge Senator Obama's feelings on this subject by his lack of response. It should just be seen as a lack of response and not a lack of caring or understanding of what is going on around him.
I guess my concerns were regarding CERTAIN supporters. Like Farrachan, Aires, Write, Jackson and EVERY freaking celebrity on the planet, with the exception of Kidd Rock.
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ALL of the above sickens me! Do you not know me at all???
That stupid flier was intended as a reaction to Obama saying he didn't look like any of the Presidents on our money. They put his picture on a $10 food stamp and put donkey ears on him. A STUPID, CRUEL, EVIL way to react, for sure!
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Not if it concerns the American people.
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Thank you for explaining this to me. While I didn't mean that his supporters were like sheep in any way, I do see what my comment implicates.
I guess my concerns were regarding CERTAIN supporters. Like Farrachan, Aires, Write, Jackson and EVERY freaking celebrity on the planet, with the exception of Kidd Rock
I didn't mean to indicate that I thought you were saying that, I meant the people who are mockingly calling him a messiah in the media are belittling his political supporters. I didn't think that you were calling him that.
I am not sure if I understand this answer. Or it may be that we agree to disagree, which is fine. You do not believe that the candidate has a right to decide what issues he is going to respond to? You believe that Governor Palin should be responding to all of the stories about her because some of the American people want her to? I truly disagree with this. The candidates must decide what they feel is important to this country and focus on those issues. If they decide that not to respond to certain items in the press that I think are important, then I will let them know that on election day. But I cannot expect them to respond to every negative story about them ever printed. And I guarantee you there is going to be someone in the world that thinks something in every story is worth a response. So they have to stick to the issues they see as important to this country. Their choice of what those issues are will give you some insight into whether you agree with their values.
ETA: And let me say again, whether or not someone called him the Messiah or not, does not have any relation to his ablity to govern this country. I understand that you say it concerns you, I would hope that what someone unrelated to him or his campaign said doesn't concern you more than hearing about what he would do to improve the problems facing American people here and abroad. Since the candidates only had a limited amount of time to make a their positions known as to what they are going to do politically to stregthen this country, they should spend all of their public time addressing those issues. But again that is just my opinion.
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Gosh Kelly! RICHARD thinks rock stars have valuable political wisdom to share. Just recently he was whining because Bruce Springteen did not go on a political talk show. I am not sure what area of the political debate R was hoping Springsteen would speak about....I guess my concerns were regarding CERTAIN supporters. Like Farrachan, Aires, Write, Jackson and EVERY freaking celebrity on the planet, with the exception of Kidd Rock
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It bothers me. All of that is wrong!
But it doesn't make me think this guy deserves to be President because people are saying such nasty things about him.
Abrupt and Abrasive.
Can you please find some video of that? I havent been able to find anything factual to back up those claims.
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No. I'm sorry you are having diffiuclty using the internet but I just don't have time to help you with your research. It has been so extensively covered it shouldn't be too difficult!
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I agree with you. I regreted that posting but I was so angry at the hate.
There are real reasons to vote. I don't think because Rush Limbaugh or Obama's supporters or anyone else uses the word "messiah" should have anything to do with the election.
I expressed myself poorly regarding this matter. Ginger's Mom did it far better than I.
Abrupt and Abrasive.
Abrupt and Abrasive.
Still havent found anything credible on this, so your hearsay is much like the tightly coiled piles my dogs leave in the yard.
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