Honest Obama Question (From a non-supporter)

[Cataholic]

Gingers Mom, incredibly well said.

[RICHARD]

The media has 'covered' him on several mags that have him looking like some kind of kooky prophet/god.

Rolling Stoned had him on the cover doing the crucifixion head bob.
Another rag recently had him back lit with a halo like corona around his head.

[lizbud]

Gingers Mom, incredibly well said.

Agreed. I loved this paragraph. It really says it all.............much better than I could.


" have NEVER heard Barack Obama referred to as the Messiah. I see from some of the above responses that apparently Louis Farrakhan did. I haven't heard anything about it at all, I have no idea what precipitated that comment. However, it doesn't matter. No, he should not take two minutes to comment on a controversial statement made by Mr. Farrakhan. It has nothing to do with his ability to govern this country, it has nothing to do with the manner in which he would govern this country if he wins, and it has absolutely no political significance whatsoever. It is something that people point at to obsecure the issues. If you find it scary that Barack Obama won't address all of the controversial items that people bring up to discredit him or to make him seem somehow less American, than don't vote for him. That is your right and your privilege. But don't think that you are voting based on the issues or based on who is most able to help this country find it's economic and world footing again. You are voting because you find him scary. If you feel that is the best reason to place your vote, without doing any further research, then that is what works for you. You are an American you are entitled to do that

[NoahsMommy]

Thanks Ginger'sMom for clearing that up for me. When I woke up this morning, I realized what I was trying to say. In the primary, I cannot vote for someone of a different party.

My point here was that just because I may register Republican, doesn't mean I want any of the R candidates in office. While I'm sure that there's a reason for it, it would be nice to have the option.

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RE: Obama and the name-calling

I guess I do agree that he probably doesn't have time to address this stuff. Thanks for the input. It was something I'd been hearing from nearly everywhere (online and on the radio, even TV sometimes. Most of this would have been from people calling in (and/or written) mocking the fact that his constituants were looking at him in that manner.

It would be interesting to hear what a Christian has to say...I get the whole "doesn't have time to address everything said", I"m just wondering if I'm just being too sensitive to this.

I know Rush calls him that, but its mocking him.

[Ginger's Mom]

My point here was that just because I may register Republican, doesn't mean I want any of the R candidates in office. While I'm sure that there's a reason for it, it would be nice to have the option.

Although I do believe there are problems with the primary system as it now exists I think the reasoning behind it is good. Let me take some simple positions (I will probably be blasted for over-simplifying). Republicans are against abortion, for allowing big business to make economic decisions for the country, and more concerned about world issues. Democrats are in favor of legalized abortion, having the government make economic decisions for the country, and more concerned about domestic issues. As a member of one of those parties I do not want a member of the other party deciding who whe best person is to carry out my goals. I wouldn't think that they understand may goals enough to make that decision. The decision as to who would best define and implement a parties goals should be made by that party alone, and not by whomever decided to go the the polls that day. JMO.

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RE: Obama and the name-calling

I guess I do agree that he probably doesn't have time to address this stuff. Thanks for the input. It was something I'd been hearing from nearly everywhere (online and on the radio, even TV sometimes. Most of this would have been from people calling in (and/or written) mocking the fact that his constituants were looking at him in that manner.

It would be interesting to hear what a Christian has to say...I get the whole "doesn't have time to address everything said", I"m just wondering if I'm just being too sensitive to this.

I know Rush calls him that, but its mocking him.

As you say it is mocking and name calling. It is not how his supporters see him, but a detractors way of making them seem like sheep instead of thinking people who have made an intelligent reasoned decision. He should not be lured by the distraction to get involved in the name calling when there are issues to be discussed (whether you agree with his position or not).

I am going to go one step further and answer the last question, although I may be out of line. I am a Christian, I may not be a fundamentalist or evangelistic Christian, but I am a Christian and hold my spiritual beliefs to be very dear. Having said that, do I think you are being overly sensitive? Yes. Do I understand how you can feel this way? Yes. It is a very emotional subject to you, and something that you are already sensitive too without being fed or baited by the media. And that is alright. I guess I would just ask that you do not judge Senator Obama's feelings on this subject by his lack of response. It should just be seen as a lack of response and not a lack of caring or understanding of what is going on around him.

[NoahsMommy]

The decision as to who would best define and implement a parties goals should be made by that party alone, and not by whomever decided to go the the polls that day. JMO.

Thank you for your explaination. I respectfully disagree with the above sentence though. As I said before, I'm registered Republican, but because the candidates individually I've seen thus far align more with my values, NOT because I decided to be Republican (No hidden meaning here - everyone has their own way of choosing their parties.)

I believe the American people vote on the issues HOW they see the candidates in relation to those issues. Just because I'm registered Republican doesn't mean that candidate agrees with what is important to me. If there is a Democratic candidate that aligns more with what I feel is more important, I should be able to vote for that person. I agree with that the parties tend to have different ideas, but our rights as American voters give us exactly that right, to CHOOSE who we want as our leader/s.

It is not how his supporters see him, but a detractors way of making them seem like sheep instead of thinking people who have made an intelligent reasoned decision.

I guess I would just ask that you do not judge Senator Obama's feelings on this subject by his lack of response. It should just be seen as a lack of response and not a lack of caring or understanding of what is going on around him.

Thank you for explaining this to me. While I didn't mean that his supporters were like sheep in any way, I do see what my comment implicates.

I guess my concerns were regarding CERTAIN supporters. Like Farrachan, Aires, Write, Jackson and EVERY freaking celebrity on the planet, with the exception of Kidd Rock .

[Edwina's Secretary]

I guess my concerns were regarding CERTAIN supporters. Like Farrachan, Aires, Write, Jackson and EVERY freaking celebrity on the planet, with the exception of Kidd Rock .

Gosh Kelly! RICHARD thinks rock stars have valuable political wisdom to share. Just recently he was whining because Bruce Springteen did not go on a political talk show. I am not sure what area of the political debate R was hoping Springsteen would speak about....

[Edwina's Secretary]

In the primary, I cannot vote for someone of a different party.

My point here was that just because I may register Republican, doesn't mean I want any of the R candidates in office. While I'm sure that there's a reason for it, it would be nice to have the option.

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RE: Obama and the name-calling

I guess I do agree that he probably doesn't have time to address this stuff. Thanks for the input. It was something I'd been hearing from nearly everywhere (online and on the radio, even TV sometimes. Most of this would have been from people calling in (and/or written) mocking the fact that his constituants were looking at him in that manner.

It would be interesting to hear what a Christian has to say...I get the whole "doesn't have time to address everything said", I"m just wondering if I'm just being too sensitive to this.

I know Rush calls him that, but its mocking him.

Kelly,

Primary rules are established state by state. In Illinois I was not registered with either party and was able to request whichever ballot I wanted in a primary. In California the Democratic Party allows crossover voting in the primary if you vote in person (as opposed to absentee ballot) but the Republican Party does not.

I am surprised you find Rush Limbaugh's derisive use of the word "messiah" acceptable. Could you, from your Christian perspective, tell me why it is okay to use that word as an insult?

[JenBKR]

I am surprised you find Rush Limbaugh's derisive use of the word "messiah" acceptable.  Could you, from your Christian perspective, tell me why it is okay to use that word as an insult?

It's not - to me anyway (and I am a Christian).  Then again, I can't stand Limbaugh.....

[momoffuzzyfaces]

It's not - to me anyway (and I am a Christian).  Then again, I can't stand Limbaugh.....

Same here Jen. I wouldn't believe anything Limbaugh says and don't bother to listen to him. Or Bill Mahar either for that matter.

[Ginger's Mom]

Kelly,

Primary rules are established state by state. In Illinois I was not registered with either party and was able to request whichever ballot I wanted in a primary. In California the Democratic Party allows crossover voting in the primary if you vote in person (as opposed to absentee ballot) but the Republican Party does not.

Oh see, I find that interesting. In NJ you must declare to vote in a primary. I believe you can actually go to the poll and declare there (at least that is what I was told at one time by someone who was calling to get voters out).

[Edwina's Secretary]

My sister lived in Newark New Jersey...she was in her urban pioneer phase. She wanted to vote for...I don't remember the name...it was a woman. The woman was a Republican. My sister went to her polling place and asked for a Republican ballot. After a moment of shocked silence...they had to send someone out to find a Republican ballot!

[Ginger's Mom]

Lol

[Cataholic]

Kelly,
I am surprised you find Rush Limbaugh's derisive use of the word "messiah" acceptable. Could you, from your Christian perspective, tell me why it is okay to use that word as an insult?

Cause it is acceptable to mockingly call someone God or the messiah...you just can't be serious and do it.

Didn't you know that, ES?

[K9soul]

I took it to mean if someone does it mockingly, they are just being an ass, but someone who seriously means it would be disturbing to a Christian who believes only Christ is the Messiah. Though I haven't personally heard anyone referring to Obama as such, I have to doubt anyone truly means it seriously.