About Prison Conditions (long)

[shepgirl]

Lately it seems the prisoners have more rights than the law abiding citizens. I know this as factual since my cousin is head macho in the prison system. The things prisoners have access to is ridiculous, they are treated better than some of us.
Big deal if they can't go anywhere...lots of handicapped or sick people never get to go out either.
As for hard times and economic changes making people do things out of desperation, I won't buy into that one. You don't rely on blaming the system for your troubles, you get off your butt and fix things.
Bad enough we are supporting our prisoners in grand style, no need to add insult to injury.
I feel if you commit the deed you pay for it . Fair is fair. Just because you are short of money or lose a job doesn't give you the right to take it out on society by committing crimes.

[sparks19]

Spin it how you want. I still don't think prisons should be like summer camp. and not everyone faces the same sentences. The differences between minimum security prisons and maximum security prisons are quite large. So if you rob a store unarmed it's unlikely you are going to end up in the maximum security prison.

I may see it black and white I suppose... but to me.. it pretty much is. You commit a crime, you are found guilty, you spend time in jail. Sorry if it doesn't prepare them to be model citizens because they don't get the finest foods or top of line work out equipment or sleep number beds and that they have to stay in a cell... apparently they weren't model citizens before. and many places have access to a prison psychiatrist. hence where they can get their rehab.

Each person makes a choice... I have made the choice to be law abiding ... therefore I don't end up in prison

[critter crazy]

I may see things as black and white, but that is how I chose to see them. It is my right after all.

And yes I do feel that people who commit crimes are scum. They did not have to commit a crime, they chose to. There fore they lose their rights as a free citizen, and should be treated like the criminals they are.

Criminals should not have all the privledges that I have! they should not get to have a gym, or TV or anything else. If I had my way, they would be confined to a Very small cell, and have no access to the outside what so ever.

It it pretty sad that we are fighting over the rights of people who have Robbed, raped, mudered ect..... As far as I am concerned they have no rights. They should suffer just as the people whom they hurt, have suffered, if not more.

I dont care how rough life is, it is no excuse to break the law! I have had tons of hard times in my life. I have yet to break any laws! There is no excuse!! My husband and I both lost our jobs the same year, going from well over 150k a year to Nothing! We lived off of hotdogs and mac n cheese. But we managed to keep our home, feed and cloth our kids, and get jobs. Sure we still arent making what we used to, but who cares?? we are doing just fine. No laws needed to be broken. People need to just suck it up, and drive on!

[Catty1]

You commit a crime, you are found guilty, you spend time in jail. Sorry if it doesn't prepare them to be model citizens because they don't get the finest foods or top of line work out equipment or sleep number beds and that they have to stay in a cell... apparently they weren't model citizens before. and many places have access to a prison psychiatrist. hence where they can get their rehab.

I largely agree here - no one is talking about model citizens, best food, great work equipment - again, that is a black or white description.

The original point was that Sheriff Joe's jail has no opportunity for rehab, or anything else. A baby died there...why? Because a piece of scum bore it?

A decent - not luxurious - prison has some basic medical care, and makes an attempt to see who can be rehabilitated and who can't. Sheriff Joe's place doesn't do that. A point RICHARD made is that some $30 million has been paid by Joe for fighting lawsuits etc. I don't know what moved him to set up a tent jail like that.

I just hope he isn't single, because that means many women friends of mine have a statistical chance of marrying him.

A lot of psychopaths wind up in prison...I wonder if they also run them?

http://www.yourlifeworks.ninemsn.com...aspx?id=373544

Industries which attract the office psychopath
Real estate, sales, security, advertising and finance but the biggest numbers are in the public sector such as teaching and health.

http://www.bookofjoe.com/2004/12/the_psychopath_.html

As [Robert] Hare put it in one interview, "If I couldn't study psychopaths in prison, I would go down to the Stock Exchange."

It's not only business, but fields such as politics, law, policing, religious organizations and news, that attract psychopaths. David Hogben, Vancouver Sun