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    Quote Originally Posted by rosethecopycat View Post
    However, they are out there and how do you define lying vs padding? And how do you confirm it, in my example?

    I agree that Sarah Palin shouldn't make it sound as if she has experience that she doesn't have. The question is, why would she think she has to do this when Obama has no real experience either.
    I define padding as lying. I did not know that telling the truth is so nuanced.

    Why would she think she has to tell the truth? What an interesting...and sad...comment. Your rationale for her lying is..."because Obama has no real experience it is okay for her to lie." Wow.

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    Keep in mind as Gov she has had to deal with other nations while dealing with the overseas sales of our natural resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Keep in mind as Gov she has had to deal with other nations while dealing with the overseas sales of our natural resources.

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    "Well, in the entertainment industry resumes are padded routinely."

    Well that explains alot. Oy vey! Here's a quarter..buy a clue.

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    More Palin views from Conservatives -

    Conservative Columnist: Palin Must Go
    Sept. 27, 2008(CBS/AP) A conservative columnist who welcomed Sarah Palin's entry in national politics now says she's proven to be a dud, and called on her to step aside as John McCain's running mate.

    Kathleen Parker, writing in the National Review Online, says her "cringe reflex is exhausted" after watching the Alaska governor stumble through TV interviews and it's become clear to her that Palin is out of her league.

    "No one hates saying that more than I do," Parker writes. "Like so many women, I've been pulling for Palin, wishing her the best, hoping she will perform brilliantly. I've also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful. Unfortunately, it often does."

    Palin, new to national politics, boosted Republican presidential nominee John McCain in polls and excited the party's core conservatives when he chose the first-term governor for his ticket.

    Some of that shine has since worn off in polls.

    Parker said she thought Palin was a "refreshing feminist of a different order" when she joined the ticket, but it's become clear she doesn't know enough about economics or foreign policy to be president should that become necessary in a McCain administration.

    Writes Parker:

    "Palin filibusters. She repeats words, filling space with deadwood. Cut the verbiage and there’s not much content there. Here’s but one example of many from her interview with Hannity: “Well, there is a danger in allowing some obsessive partisanship to get into the issue that we’re talking about today. And that’s something that John McCain, too, his track record, proving that he can work both sides of the aisle, he can surpass the partisanship that must be surpassed to deal with an issue like this.”

    When Couric pointed to polls showing that the financial crisis had boosted Obama’s numbers, Palin blustered wordily: “I’m not looking at poll numbers. What I think Americans at the end of the day are going to be able to go back and look at track records and see who’s more apt to be talking about solutions and wishing for and hoping for solutions for some opportunity to change, and who’s actually done it?”

    If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself."

    Parker suggests that Palin could bow out for "personal reasons," such as to care for her infant son: "No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first."

    Parker wasn't the only national Review writer to call for a shake-up in the McCain campaign. Kathryn Jean Lopez wrote that Palin is not coming off at her best in interviews, and notes that in keeping Palin on a tight media leash the campaign is potentially hurting the ticket more:

    " If Sarah Palin is John McCain’s secret weapon, let her go, whoever is holding her back. And, frankly, if it turns out that the 'authentic' Palin of rallies and the Republican convention is just good speech delivery in a woman with some good spirit, I want to know that sooner rather than later. (Mitt’s still available … "

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitten645 View Post
    "Well, in the entertainment industry resumes are padded routinely."

    Well that explains alot. Oy vey! Here's a quarter..buy a clue.

    Condescension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    I define padding as lying. I did not know that telling the truth is so nuanced.

    Why would she think she has to tell the truth? What an interesting...and sad...comment. Your rationale for her lying is..."because Obama has no real experience it is okay for her to lie." Wow.





    I can clearly see that you are against lying. Just for fun, I'd like you to have a look at my real life credentials. For the record, I have no bio or resume. I've been gainfully employed or self employed for 30 years and have never had to present a resume. I run a sole proprietorship and an S corporation.
    Here's what mine could say:

    Biography:
    Extensive professional musical performance Overseas and Worldwide. ( I worked on a cruise ship for 12 years-having been to over 100 port of call in over 60 countries- I was performing and it wasn't in the U.S., so where was it? I was technically IN the foreign country at the time)

    ...I have international clientele for arranging music (yes, the vast majority in the U.S. and Canada and one guy from Australia)

    No lies here.


    Now for the S corp.

    MDF, Inc. (this is not the actual name of my S corp, and it is coincidental if I am using a real company name for my purposes here, it is unintentional and I apologize)

    If you disregard the parenthetical realities, it sounds pretty good, and is completely truthful.

    Resume:

    Position:President of MDF, Inc. from 2005 to date. (I am the only officer and employee)
    Majority stockholder in the corporation. (there is one one share of stock-and I have it)
    Duties: to oversee the day to day business of the company (I oversee myself-loading my gear in the car)
    and to manage the staff. (which is only myself)
    Under my leadership the company has realized expansive growth over recent years. Revenues have quadrupled from 2005 to 2006. (not difficult- I was only in business one month of 2005) MDF has acquired financing (I gave my company a loan) new assets and facilities under my leadership. I have also been in charge of marketing and advertising. (I got some business cards and magnets) MDF has been a part of many successful joint ventures under my leadership (I worked with other contractors)
    MDF has realized profitability and success due to my leadership skills.

    I realize that this is an amatuerish attempt at writing a resume, like I said, I know nothing about resumes, I've never had one.
    But, the point is you can make something sound really good, and still be truthful.
    It was said that padding is lying. I padded the heck out of this and didn't lie.

    Now, about Sarah Palin.
    Can you tell me, in the video, exactly where she lied? What was untruthful and not a matter of opinion?
    BTW, what did you think of Bill Clinton's lying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosethecopycat View Post
    BTW, what did you think of Bill Clinton's lying?
    He was standing up at the time.

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    Here's my question,

    Since Pam Anderson is in the entertainment industry, would she need to pad her 'resumes'?


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    Since we are an Idiocra-----ah, Democracy-where are the pieces regarding the requests for Biden to pull out for the good of the country?

    Oh. Since we have 'old guy' running for President we have to let "other old dottering guy" run for VP. It's the 'Murican way!

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