Thanks my friend, got the old boy to eat reasonably well yesterday,but it sure is a battle , i am sure many others can sympathize who have CRF kitties,yes Melissa is a pretty responsible young lady,she will only pill him if we decided to go away for night,but i am not planning that in the near future,and i know how difficult a task it is, takes two of us to do it,but the thought that she wants to take on his care is nice isn't it?