Why isn't MORE being said -

[caseysmom]

Okay to lighten things up a flock of turkeys was just walking down my very suburban street and I thought of you puckstop

[sparks19]

Okay to lighten things up a flock of turkeys was just walking down my very suburban street and I thought of you puckstop

BE QUIET!!!!!

LOL

I'm getting burnt out on Turkey talk lol. I'm tired of waking in the night to hear " *cries* come back turkey... come back" LOL just kidding He doesn't talk in his sleep... only snores. But I do hear about turkeys a lot. If he doesn't get one this year I don't know how I will make it through

[caseysmom]

BE QUIET!!!!!

LOL

I'm getting burnt out on Turkey talk lol. I'm tired of waking in the night to hear " *cries* come back turkey... come back" LOL just kidding He doesn't talk in his sleep... only snores. But I do hear about turkeys a lot. If he doesn't get one this year I don't know how I will make it through

He could have picked one off sitting on my lawn One of the neighborhood teenagers came flying around the corner, I thought for a minute I should start warming up the oven

[RICHARD]

I have to post a thougt...

I have seen tons of videos about people who have exotic animals that they have adopted into their lives. Pigs, horses, crocs and the duck that would fly along the car of the person who was 'adopted' by that animal.

Each of us has that one pet/family member that is extraordinary because of the attachment we have with them.

MY pet is a --------. All other -------- are not as special as mine.

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One of the most impressive things that I have ever heard of is the reverence that hunters, who rely on the earth and the bounty from it, have.


Many cultures will stop after they kill game for food and say a prayer-to the land, the soul of the creature and their luck in being able to feed their family.

Today we send out the 'bread winner' to earn money so we can bypass the nasty side of gutting any meat we put on the table. Subtract 150 years from the calendar and and try to find a nice steak in town!

They saddest part of 'bringing home the bacon' is that we would starve before we would kill an animal for food. If we respect the world around us and
can use thought and care about the living things in it, we will be that much more informed as to how the world works.

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In some cultures or religions people will say a prayer before a meal, to honor the animal that sits in the plate on the table.

Why?

I can only guess.

But, I suspect it's an acknowledgement of the person, circumstance and luck that was able to fill the plate. It's a homage to the land and how it was not to be taken for granted.

We all know how to order thru the drive-in at the local fast food joint.

If we have to forage for ourselves how do we get a meal?

I do know how to dress an animal in order to use the meat for food. I read it in a book and hope that I well never HAVE to do it. People who do provide meat for their families should not be treated as cruel.

I stop and wonder if I had to stay at home and send my GF, SO, wife to pick up a pound of moose meat from the local treeline.

I'd starve if I waited for a 'modern' woman to gut, skin and butcher my dinner.
I do not mean this as a slam to gals here in 2008. It's just a reminder that any woman is just as good a man should we need to depend on each other.

Native Americans ranked women the same as a good tool, a horse or and asset to live. Not because they were material objects0it was they were needed to survive
Show me a gal who hunts, fishes and doesn't need me me to go out and kill a meal?

She is golden.

Women should not be thought of as equal.
Women are not strong.
Women are figure heads.
Women are dumb beings who don't have any voice.
Women cannot do anything on their own.

My RB GF was special. She went from boats in the San Pedro harbor to sleeping on the ground in the mountains of SoCal.

But, I'd would have tossed her aside in an instant.
She never learned how to start a fire with a magnesium 'match'.

[Puckstop31]

He could have picked one off sitting on my lawn One of the neighborhood teenagers came flying around the corner, I thought for a minute I should start warming up the oven

You wound me so.





This spring was really frustrating. I took a noob along with me. (Don't get me wrong, he is one of my best friends and a life long hunter. Just not a turkey hunter and turkey hunting is WAY more challenging.) He would not sit still. He kept moving and rolling and making noise. LOL Tool. Anyway, one morning I worked one in really, really close. Like 10 more feet and my buddy would have had a shot. Don't know what happened but he got scared. I think his line of sight to the decoys was blocked by this old tree. Once he could not see "the prize", he bailed. LOL

First time I ever got one that close and did not harvest it. But, what are ya gonna do? LOL It still was a lot of fun and a great rush. He was gobbling up a storm and eating up my calling. Odd that he gets lazy that close. Ya win some, you lose some.


May I ask where in California you live? I have not heard of good turkey hunting in Cali.

[RICHARD]

One of the neighborhood teenagers came flying around the corner, I thought for a minute I should start warming up the oven

Was it Hansel or Gretel?

[caseysmom]

You wound me so.





This spring was really frustrating. I took a noob along with me. (Don't get me wrong, he is one of my best friends and a life long hunter. Just not a turkey hunter and turkey hunting is WAY more challenging.) He would not sit still. He kept moving and rolling and making noise. LOL Tool. Anyway, one morning I worked one in really, really close. Like 10 more feet and my buddy would have had a shot. Don't know what happened but he got scared. I think his line of sight to the decoys was blocked by this old tree. Once he could not see "the prize", he bailed. LOL

First time I ever got one that close and did not harvest it. But, what are ya gonna do? LOL It still was a lot of fun and a great rush. He was gobbling up a storm and eating up my calling. Odd that he gets lazy that close. Ya win some, you lose some.


May I ask where in California you live? I have not heard of good turkey hunting in Cali.

I am in a suburb of Sacramento, actually there are lots of turkeys roaming around where I work also.

[momoffuzzyfaces]

And yet Animals are superior to us?

Now I can understand how some people can feel the way they do about hunting and hunters. Perhaps in your mind I am just some evil kind of animal and that is OK. I just take heart in the fact that I KNOW the work I do with the NRA, NWTF, my hunting license fees, my 'gun club', ammo taxes, and so forth do more to expand and preserve animals and their habitat than will ever be made 100% known or understood to the public.

/rant

Well, I've never had a animal break into my house and rob me at gun point or deliberately hurt me for no reason. So, yes, they are superior to us in lots of ways.

FYI, my parents and brother all hunted and taught me how to shoot. I just decided to never kill. The evil is what you hunt and the intent behind it. Watching an animal fight for its live has never pleased me.
I just rather shoot animals with a camera and let them live in the peace they have granted me.

[shais_mom]

I guess I can see several points in agreement with everyone.
I couldn't hunt but am glad for those that do b/c of overpopulation of the deer in our areas. I don't think its evil. I don't think the wolves should be killed UNLESS they are attacking farm animals or a person's livliehood.
We have very little predatory animals in our 'neck of the woods'. Other than coyotes. And not all coyotes can take down a deer. So therefore hunting is needed in our areas or we will be overrun with deer. So therefore I do not see hunting as evil nor do I see the people that do it as evil. The concept of being evil b/c you hunt is completely foreign to me. Being evil b/c you hunt humans is a different story of course. But that's neither here nor there and for a different thread.

[lizbud]

Well, I've never had a animal break into my house and rob me at gun point or deliberately hurt me for no reason. So, yes, they are superior to us in lots of ways.

FYI, my parents and brother all hunted and taught me how to shoot. I just decided to never kill. The evil is what you hunt and the intent behind it. Watching an animal fight for its live has never pleased me.
I just rather shoot animals with a camera and let them live in the peace they have granted me.

We could be long lost twins. I again agree 100%.

Unless I am being attacked by an animal, or my family is at death's door
due to lack of food, I could not take it's life for sport.

[shais_mom]

Pam made so much sense in her final quote in this thread that I just had to borrow it.
http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?t=145681

Originally Posted by Pam
I think this is my last Dog House post. My daughter told me on Sunday that it is a waste of time to post here and she is correct. Peoples' minds are made up. (sp?)

ditto -

I read this thread to try to ed-u-cate myself and all that it has turned into is a pi$$ing contest against some people (members here) I shouldn't be surprised tho. B/c it always seems to happen.

Sayonarra!

Sayanarra Dog House. It will be awhile before I'm back.

You say to-mate-toe I say toe-maah-toe. It all comes down to the same thing -
Its all about trying to prove someone wrong and someone right. No one wants to concede that each may be right in their own context.
Stick a fork in me b/c I'm done.