Still no heat.........

**Sighthounds4me** · 09-07-2008, 10:13 AM

I think your aunt needs to re-check her facts. Studies have proven that to wait until after the first season, the risk of certain cancers (like mammarry) actually increases.

I'd go ahead with your plans as you have made them.

**sasvermont** · 09-07-2008, 11:31 AM

I've always been under the impression that it is best to spay the girls right at the six month date. That's what I have done. I had one Siamese cat that I waited for two years before spaying. She lived to be 21. Go figure. I think doggies run about the same, spaying wise.

I would stay on the side of caution and have her spayed soon, before she escapes and makes little ones!

Good luck. Spaying usually runs smoothly.

**Catlady711** · 09-07-2008, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Sighthounds4me

I think your aunt needs to re-check her facts. Studies have proven that to wait until after the first season, the risk of certain cancers (like mammarry) actually increases.

I agree completely!

Maybe she just misspoke or you mis-heard her? Definately spay BEFORE the first heat cycle.

**lizbud** · 09-07-2008, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Catlady711

I agree completely!

Maybe she just misspoke or you mis-heard her? Definately spay BEFORE the first heat cycle.

I agree as well. That would be tomorrow, right?

**MoonandBean** · 09-07-2008, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by lizbud

I agree as well. That would be tomorrow, right?

Oops...Tuesday morning

I guess I meant 9/9/08.
Thanks for all the advice...I guess Tuesday it is. Does anyone have any good tranquilizers for me? HaHa...just kiddin.

**AllAmericanPUP** · 09-07-2008, 12:54 PM

definately get her spayed before her first heat.
don't know what studies your aunt and those people are reading but chances of cancer are lessened if spayed before the first heat

**Freedom** · 09-07-2008, 01:22 PM

I've also always done it before the first heat; that is what my vet always advises.

Yup, it is hard on mom as well! You won't need tranqs, you have all of us to lend support. Sunny will be fine.

**lizbud** · 09-07-2008, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by MoonandBean

Oops...Tuesday morning

I guess I meant 9/9/08.
Thanks for all the advice...I guess Tuesday it is. Does anyone have any good tranquilizers for me? HaHa...just kiddin.

Best of luck on Tuesday then. I'm sure Sonny & you will do just fine.

**luvofallhorses** · 09-08-2008, 12:13 AM

You most definately need to get her fixed BEFORE she has her heat cyle. It's not good for the dog IMO to go through, they are so miserable, plus you have the risk of her sneaking out the door and getting pregnant, so I would spay her BEFORE she has her heat cycle. If she goes into heat, it can risk her health by getting mammory gland cancer and that isn't something you want to mess with. So I would get her done as soon as you can.

I hope she does well on Tuesday.

Best wishes to sweet Sunny AND you.

I will be thinking of you both on Tuesday. let us know how it goes.

Don't worry if she isn't herself for a couple days, she'll be back to normal soon.

and make sure you follow the vets orders after she is spayed which I am sure you will.

sometimes they keep the females overnight to monitor them, it just depends on the vets.

**MoonandBean** · 09-09-2008, 09:05 AM

Sunny wrote this poem last night in preparation for her big day...

Ode to my uterus...

I haven't known you very long, I'm really still a pup. We won't let you get full grown, your breeding days are up.

So many doggies need good homes; it really is so sad. Mom says to bring more pups would be really really bad.

I won't have to suffer Heat and have howling at my door. I get to be a spoiled pup and won't act like a whore.

**MoonandBean** · 09-09-2008, 10:30 AM

Well...the vet called. Sunny has an under-developed vulva and it is tucked inside. The vet said to spay her now would prevent it from developing and she will probably always have vaginal/urinary problems and would probably need a corrective surgery later in life. She said if we wait until she goes through heat, chances are good (about 80%) that the vulva will grow and come out like it should and then we can spay her. If the problem still doesn't correct after her first heat, then we will go ahead with the spay and she still may need corrective surgery. The vet said if it were her dog, she would wait. Sigh....... I guess we will wait. The vet said the chance of mammary gland cancer increases from almost 0% to 8% with waiting but she would still recommend waiting.

**MoonandBean** · 10-14-2008, 04:28 PM

I took Sunny to the vet today. She is still not in heat. She has another UTI due to her structural problem. This little Miss sunshine is definitely going to be unique. So...another week of antibiotics and then she may go on prophylactic antibiotics to prevent UTI's until this problem corrects itself (hopefully!) or with corrective surgery.

**shais_mom** · 09-09-2008, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Sighthounds4me

I think your aunt needs to re-check her facts. Studies have proven that to wait until after the first season, the risk of certain cancers (like mammarry) actually increases.

I'd go ahead with your plans as you have made them.

that's exactly what I've heard.
Spay before the first heat cycle due to the heat cycle causes an increase in cancers later in life.
And contrary to popular rural hick belief - a litter of puppies does not make the dog a better dog. (not saying your aunt said this - just I know that's the mentality I've dealt with around here)

Guess I'll never learn to read the entire thread before posting! ~~oops~~ sorry~
I hope Sunny ahh grows where she needs too and that everything will work out!