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    Can someone be a full time Dad and a full time (fill in the blank).

    Yep.

    It's multitasking, people have been doing it for centuries.

    Besides, she also has a husband to help out with things, and she wouldn't be without other help as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    Can someone be a full time Dad and a full time (fill in the blank).

    Yep.

    It's multitasking, people have been doing it for centuries.

    Besides, she also has a husband to help out with things, and she wouldn't be without other help as well.
    It only takes five minues to be a dad.

    I am not a dad either (not that I know of), but if I had a Down's Syndrome child and her money I wouldn't do anything else with my time. All of my time would be spent with that child. I cannot see a woman who has such a child wanting to do anything else. There is something wrong with a woman who would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willow Oak View Post
    It only takes five minues to be a dad.
    This is one of the saddest statements I have heard in a long time. If my husband had this attitude, I would have never had a child with him. I sure hope you never have any kids

    I am sorry that you have the attitude that there is something wrong with a mother who works. This whole thread amazes me.....

    How do we know ANY of them will be good presidents/VPs? I imagine you are the kind of person who would not vote for a woman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willow Oak View Post
    It only takes five minues to be a dad.

    I am not a dad either (not that I know of), but if I had a Down's Syndrome child and her money I wouldn't do anything else with my time. All of my time would be spent with that child. I cannot see a woman who has such a child wanting to do anything else. There is something wrong with a woman who would.
    Now THAT is a load of BULL. It takes a lot more than just 5 minutes to be a dad.

    Brian is a VERY devoted father and he spends every moment he can with Hannah. I bet if he had the option of me working and him staying at home he would. he is VERY capable of caring for her. he knows her just as well as I do and she absolutely ADORES him. Most of the time she prefers him over me... MOST of the time. If I had to leave town for a couple of days I am MORE than confident that Hannah's care would be met and EXCEEDED with her father in charge. I even get to sleep until noon on the weekends when he is home because he gets up early with her, changes her, gets her dressed, feeds her, plays with her etc etc etc. And it's a lot more than 5 minutes

    There are LOTS of stay at home fathers out there and they are wonderful at it. There are LOTS of working mothers out there and they manage to have a full time job and be a fulltime parent as well. There are LOTS of single parents who don't have the other parent to help out and they work full time and can be full time parents.

    I am a SAHM and I am very lucky to be able to be one... but not every mother can or wants to be a SAHM. If I had to go back to work do I think Hannah would suffer or that I would be less of a mother? not a CHANCE. I certainly don't think mothers who work are failing their children.




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    It only takes five minues to be a dad.
    What?


    What the hell? When did we step back to the 18th century?

    I'm going to respect the Mayor's rules and leave colorful language out of this. Anyone who thinks this should never be a parent. Both my wife and I shoulder the responsibility of raising the kids, and without a joint effort it would be tough at best.

    Parenting is a joint effort. Can Barack Obama be a full time dad to his kids and be POTUS? A man with children should devote all his time to the kids, I can't imagine a man who has chidren wanting to do anything else.

    It's the 21st century, bub. Care to join it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    What?


    What the hell? When did we step back to the 18th century?

    I'm going to respect the Mayor's rules and leave colorful language out of this. Anyone who thinks this should never be a parent. Both my wife and I shoulder the responsibility of raising the kids, and without a joint effort it would be tough at best.

    Parenting is a joint effort. Can Barack Obama be a full time dad to his kids and be POTUS? A man with children should devote all his time to the kids, I can't imagine a man who has chidren wanting to do anything else.

    It's the 21st century, bub. Care to join it?

    Bravo LH. On this subject, we are in total agreement.
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    A bunch of cats with claws! If you have children -- stay home with them, love them and rear them properly! What's wrong with you?
    You really have no damned idea who you're talking to.

    Here's a buck, go buy a clue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    You really have no damned idea who you're talking to.

    Here's a buck, go buy a clue.
    In your case I think I do have a clue.

    Now I know that we all make typos here. No big deal, but grammatical errors or inexcuseable. It should be: "You have no idea to whom you are talking." Never end a sentence with a preposition.

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    I'm not going to bite my tongue while this fool speaks.

    It offends me as a father who takes just a tad more than 5 minutes a day to be a father.

    It offends me as the son of someone who took just a few more than 5 minutes to be a father.

    Parenting is a joint effort. While I'm typing this, my wife is working, and I'm taking care of our children. I also worked last night, and put in 50-60 hours/week. Does that disqualify me from being a father? No.

    Regardless of whether my wife was working or not, I'd be active in parenting. It's a sad commentary on society that this pervasive crap that a woman's place is in the kitchen still exists.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Whoa!!! I didn't say I AGREED with Willow Oak - just that I thought that was the point he was trying to make - thus the examples I cited. And of course not every job is 9-5, Mon-Fri. I should have said MOST are 40 hr per week jobs. Sorry I didn't make my post more clear than I did.

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    Hmmmm,


    I guess the First Dude of Alaska don't count as a parent?

    As I stated in another thread. If people are so hot to watch her fail, vote her in. They should put their money where their mouths are. Simple as that.

    Instead of conjecture, MAKE IT SO, like Captain Picard would say.

    I think that more people are scared that she will succeed.

    I've got no kids, man vegetables and she I know she's got bigger bits that I could ever dream of for THINKING about taking a job that serious.

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    pomtzu - I was agreeing that there would be extra time away from home. Didn't mean to sound like you agreed with this. But just that that kind of schedule would affect ANY White House couple - and no one raises the same concerns about the man in the situation.

    For example - if it was Sarah's husband who was running mate, I don't think this thread would even have come up, because 'the wife' would be there to take up the domestic slack. Her husband would have the same potentially crazy schedule - but a lot of these questions would not have come up.

    I just wanted to point out the double standard, that's all. I didn't mean to make you feel bad. I'm sorry.
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    Ginger's Mom - sorry to disagree, but I think Sarah Palin is being singled out because she is FEMALE.

    As I posted a minute ago, if the situation was the same and her HUSBAND was running mate, this thread would never have happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catty1 View Post

    I just wanted to point out the double standard, that's all. I didn't mean to make you feel bad. I'm sorry.
    You didn't - I feel bad for not making myself clear.

    Double standard is right - along with caveman mentality - man work, woman raise kids!

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    I stand by my OP, and follow-up. Most of these responses have been made without giving any thought to what I said: "If I had a Down's Syndrome child and her money ... "

    All right. We live in a society where both parents work. I don't agree with it, but that's where we are. And I don't care if every person on the face of this earth disagrees with me. Any woman who has a Down's Syndrome child -- especially if the child is less that one year old -- that could stay at home full-time but would prefer to work full time is not being a good mother.

    A bunch of cats with claws! If you have children -- stay home with them, love them and rear them properly! What's wrong with you?

    As for the person who suggested that I would never vote for a woman: you've revealed that you have a problem with men. You presume that because I am a man that I wouldn't vote for a woman. You don't have any idea what I would do or for whom I would vote. I could vote for Sarah Palin, but any woman with five children -- one a less than one-year-old Down Sundrome child -- has no business being vice-president or anything else. Go home and take care of that child! Leave it to a nanny? That's what's wrong with this world -- leave the responsibility to someone else.

    You talk all concerned, and I may be ignorant, as you say, but you would never do what I do. Phooey on you!

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