McCain/Palin ???

[Puckstop31]

The way I see it - we have both. Do you really think Palin has the ability and experience to keep it that way if she were put in the position where she had to?

Pam, this is for you too.


OK, I guess I can best answer this question by giving you a little blurb about me and what I really believe in. Like a 50,000 ft level look.

I am a Libertarian at my core. But not as extreme as many people who are also Libertarians. I really believe in the American people. Deep down, I do not really think the majority of us are the kind of people who sit around and wait for others to do things for us. When push comes to shove, WE make it happen. Thus, for We The People to truly excel, we need the government to get OUT of our way, not in it more. Now, yes it is true that in many ways, this kind of thinking is harsh. Because in "my" world, when you buy a house that is out of your means and get evicted... Tough. Did not plan properly for your retirement and are broke? Tough! Hope your family or community can help you. Do not take this to mean I do not have compassion, because I do. I just KNOW at my core, that we are better than any of the nonsense FORCED on us by a government that is corrupt to its core and power MAD.

Thus, the primary reason I really like Sarah Palin. She is SO far outside the beltway. Also, I know that there is a grand difference between knowledge and wisdom. I feel that Palin is wise. Sure, she is not perfect, but who is? Also, I believe she is humble enough to realize that the most important part of being POTUS is surrounding yourself with good people. Good people who really will tell her she is wrong. Frankly, this is my number one issue with Obama. (Numbers two and three come in a sec....LOL) He just comes off as a know it all. "I can do this.... I will do that...." That is change? More promises that he cannot even come close to delivering, save from taxing us into submission?

Next, grouped in with my 3 main issues is the issue of the 2nd Amendment. The Amendment that protects all our other rights. It does not grant a right, it affirms a God given right. The right for ME to protect myself and my family from tyranny... Be that it comes from Washington DC or a home intruder. Clearly, Barack Obama is in no way a friend of the 2nd Amendment. Of course, he pays lip service to it, but his voting record is crystal clear. Sure, he is not so stupid as to go for an outright ban, he will just try to make it next to impossible, to buy firearms or ammunition. Wanna see the next revolution in the USA? Do that. Seriously. There are tens of millions of people who will NOT let that happen. Serious people who are not the "gun nuts" you think of. Sarah Palin is a lifetime NRA member. Nuff said.

And finally, the economy. Barack Obama is an out right marxist. What else to you call a proposal to TAKE money from oil companies and give it to people? If windfall profits were truly his issue, why not Google? Why not Microsoft? Why not AL GORE? All the things he proposes are going to cost a truckload of money. Where does it come from? His plan calls for increasing taxes on companies and cutting "middle class" taxes. That is not a tax cut, that is just swapping numbers around. Do you think that those tax increases will not find their way into the price of products? The Nanny State, telling you serfs how to live. Talk about fascism....


So yes, I really believe Sarah Palin has what it takes to be a great leader. She is not perfect, but she is a REAL change in the direction I want to see the country go.

I'll add, just for the record, I oppose her on the issues of abortion and on her stance on same sex issues. We can get into that if you like. LOL I'm here all week, try the fish.

[rosethecopycat]

I am a Libertarian at my core. But not as extreme as many people who are also Libertarians. I really believe in the American people. Deep down, I do not really think the majority of us are the kind of people who sit around and wait for others to do things for us. When push comes to shove, WE make it happen. Thus, for We The People to truly excel, we need the government to get OUT of our way, not in it more.

Likewise. So am I.

Next, grouped in with my 3 main issues is the issue of the 2nd Amendment. The Amendment that protects all our other rights. It does not grant a right, it affirms a God given right. The right for ME to protect myself and my family from tyranny...

In the event of a home invasion, in FL, I can go to jail, protecting my cat's lives.

And finally, the economy. Barack Obama is an out right marxist. What else to you call a proposal to TAKE money from oil companies and give it to people?

It's called a seizure.
And Comrade Obama supports it.
I'd tell the oil companies to go ahead and blow themselves up before being seized.

Some people need to go ahead and read some Ayn Rand.

[Grace]

This is the candidate my husband would like to win -
Ron Paul

[Puckstop31]

This is the candidate my husband would like to win -
Ron Paul

I'd vote for him, if it were not for his foreign policy. Get out of Iraq? Sure thing. Remove ALL of our forces from any overseas basing? Not so much. Sorry Ron, but this is the 21st century.

[Pam]

This is the candidate my husband would like to win -
Ron Paul

Most of the people in my family supported Ron Paul and I liked a lot of what he said. I just received this link from my brother, probably RP's biggest supporter. It's a shame that he has had to hold his own convention as opposed to having a say at the Republican Convention.

http://news.aol.com/elections/conven...596x1200508518

[RICHARD]

Some people need to go ahead and read some Ayn Rand.

You know, It's not nice to suggest reading material without giving people a starting point.


The Fountainhead? Atlas Shrugged? We the Living?

I'll dig out my copies start my assignment.

[rosethecopycat]

You know, It's not nice to suggest reading material without giving people a starting point.


The Fountainhead? Atlas Shrugged? We the Living?

I'll dig out my copies start my assignment.

Atlas Shrugged hits more of the topic points discussed here, but a better starting point is Fountainhead.

From Idiocracy to Ayn Rand, I'm there with you R.

[Pam]

Hubby had an interesting thought last night. He said McCain should have picked Colin Powell as his running mate. If McCain is looking to capture the female vote with SP maybe he could try and steal away some black votes from Obama. Honestly, it is strange to even contemplate how these men come up with their selections. I am sure that Colin Powell has had enough of the political scene. Maybe he was asked and turn it down anyway.

[caseysmom]

Hubby had an interesting thought last night. He said McCain should have picked Colin Powell as his running mate. If McCain is looking to capture the female vote with SP maybe he could try and steal away some black votes from Obama. Honestly, it is strange to even contemplate how these men come up with their selections. I am sure that Colin Powell has had enough of the political scene. Maybe he was asked and turn it down anyway.

Better yet condoleeza rice I think she would have been a great pick.

[Puckstop31]

Better yet condoleeza rice I think she would have been a great pick.

I agree. Talk about foreign policy experience!!!

[RICHARD]

Atlas Shrugged hits more of the topic points discussed here, but a better starting point is Fountainhead.

From Idiocracy to Ayn Rand, I'm there with you R.

After XX many years, the opening 'scene' of the FH sticks in my mind. I was at the old swimming hole in my mind.

I suspect the only reason you is with me is you like money, and I have electrolytes.

Did you know that Georgia is part of Florida?


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With all the supposition about who shoulda picked who to run with, it's interesting to see how we all think the 'also rans' would stack up with the candidates. I do think that there were many thoughts as to who would be the best VP pick but I think that the media, parties and voters are too hung up on
the "four more years of" idea.

I don't know if there is a Magic 8 ball, tarot cards or ouija board at work here.
We really can't tell what is going happen should either one be elected. The basic idea of an election is to promise the shiat out of your run, then go back on them when you hit the driveway and Rose Garden.


Way back when, was it the elder Bush?, made the promis of no new taxes.
"READ MY LIPS, NO NEW TAXES"
When ever I hear that phrase I grab my lips with my hands and move them around because there is no way that I can imagine anyone making a statement like that without some kind of external help. Of course, we can't know where those promises came from, he had his pants up.


Ergo,
When I hear any politico speak with his pants up or her skirt coveing their rear ends, I am not assured that they are telling me the truth.


Picking a president, VP or party is relatively easy.

Don't go by color, creed or what THEY believe. Measure it out by what you believe, what you want and what you hope for yourself, family and country.

Match them up and you have a winner.

Do I really care about who divorced who? Who's pregnant and which star supports who?

No, I do care about character and how they spin a story. If they come out sheepishly and say, "I screwed up..." Good. If they talk thru the seat of a 1,200 dollar pair of suit pants, I can't get behind them. You end up with a smell in the air that you just can't stand and they do not have the couth to excuse themselves. If you do not acknowledge things, they didn't happen.

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Like my Aunt Nancy says "Kids... sometimes all you can do is stand beside them and support them"

I like Aunt Nancy.



PS31,

About qualifications?

Here is the way that I look at the race.


I own a multi million dollar business. I have to hire a manager/president to run it.

Do I put a numbskull in to get OJT? Or do I settle for a numbskull that has a bit more life experience and I feel that I can trust?


The people of the U.S. have this idea regarding lesser evils, parties, four more years, charisma and believing promises from men and women who will lie to you and I to get a job.


Treat it like a job interview, after all we do own the 'company' and I'll be dipped if I will give the job, and my country, away.

[pomtzu]

Also, I believe she is humble enough to realize that the most important part of being POTUS is surrounding yourself with good people. Good people who really will tell her she is wrong.)

Interesting concept, but who does she choose? From all that I have been hearing and reading about her, all of her admirerers seem to think she is the ONLY "non-corrupt, outside the beltway" politician! So she has to choose insiders which puts this idea back to square one.

[Puckstop31]

Interesting concept, but who does she choose? From all that I have been hearing and reading about her, all of her admirerers seem to think she is the ONLY "non-corrupt, outside the beltway" politician! So she has to choose insiders which puts this idea back to square one.

LOL. I said GOOD people. They are out there. We just don't know them yet. Which to me, would strengthen the fact that they are good people. They want to stay out of the limelight.

She would not have to pick politicians either. In fact, I would hope she would not. A CLEAN sweep would be wonderful, eh?

Fear of the unknown is not a good reason to avoid taking a chance. The only way to overcome your fear is to face it head on and kicks its bum. LOL

[pomtzu]

LOL. I said GOOD people. They are out there. We just don't know them yet. Which to me, would strengthen the fact that they are good people. They want to stay out of the limelight.

She would not have to pick politicians either. In fact, I would hope she would not. A CLEAN sweep would be wonderful, eh?

Fear of the unknown is not a good reason to avoid taking a chance. The only way to overcome your fear is to face it head on and kicks its bum. LOL

A clean sweep would hardly be practical or possible unfortunately.

So she chooses "good unknowns". Untried, inexperienced, unqualified - just like she is. Isn't that the very reason why the majority of the people don't feel that she is ready for this appointment? I don't know about you, but I'm not willing to "take a chance" with my freedom and safety nor that of my children and grandchildren who will still be here long after I'm gone!!!

This is a vicious circle - I'm getting dizzy!!!!!

[Puckstop31]

A clean sweep would hardly be practical or possible unfortunately.

So she chooses "good unknowns". Untried, inexperienced, unqualified - just like she is. Isn't that the very reason why the majority of the people don't feel that she is ready for this appointment? I don't know about you, but I'm not willing to "take a chance" with my freedom and safety nor that of my children and grandchildren who will still be here long after I'm gone!!!

This is a vicious circle - I'm getting dizzy!!!!!

Untried? Inexperienced? How do you know? Just because a person does not have GOVERNMENT experience does not mean they are not unqualified.

Indeed, the founders never intended for there to be career politicians.

What would you define as qualified? Just curious.

As for taking a chance with your freedom and safety... You are only promised freedom here, not safety. And from what I read in this thread, I think we all have a varying definition of what freedom is. Further, what does the government have to do with your safety? Physical and Fiscal security should be the responsibility of the individual. IMHO, of course.

An interesting read.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1220...n_commentaries