McCain/Palin ???

[Bonny]

but then not everyone. The other day I heard a cute little joke about God & why he/she decided to make humans he was bored watching the apes & monkeys. He/she decided to create more entertaining speices.

[Miss Z]

In my schooling system, evolution is taught in biology.

All the six main religions are learned about in religious studies.

In BOTH subjects, the beliefs of theists and atheists are discussed. No shoving down throats, no abhorring one or the other.

Should this not be the way forward in ALL schools?

[moosmom]

Palin being named McCain's running mate has made my decision who I'm voting for easy.

Palin has put a bounty of $150/head in the hunting of wolves in Alaska. She has also okayed the drilling of oil in her neck of the woods. She is a diehard NRA member (nothing wrong with that).

Our country is in total disarray because of global warming. The icebergs are melting fast and furiously causing a domino affect with the animals whose lives depend on those icebergs. The forests that the animals live are being ripped apart.

What will a woman with 5 children do if, God forbid, something happens to McCain who is 72 is, which I doubt, elected into office? Will she be able to run this country in his absence??? Don't think so. She doesn't have the experience.

VOTE OBAMA!!!!

[Puckstop31]

For starters, my apologies to all for my off the hook posts earlier in this thread. I let my passion get the best of me.

Palin has put a bounty of $150/head in the hunting of wolves in Alaska.

I gotta admit this one makes me scratch my head a little. But I want to know more than just the side of the story we have been told.

She has also okayed the drilling of oil in her neck of the woods.

So drilling on about 1000 acres of the extreme north slope, a barren wasteland, is a bad thing?

Our country is in total disarray because of global warming. The icebergs are melting fast and furiously causing a domino affect with the animals whose lives depend on those icebergs. The forests that the animals live are being ripped apart.

I first refer you to this article.

http://www.dailytech.com/Sun+Makes+H...ticle12823.htm

I sadly do not have it handy, but I saw an article that had some pretty strong evidence that linked global temperature to the suns activity. I mean, that just makes sense. This is not to say that we should not be good stewards of our planet. I support, both with my money and my time, the activities of several organizations that probably do more to protect our environment than you would want to believe. The two biggest ones are the NRA and the National Wild Turkey Federation.

But I digress...

Surely our environment needs some TLC, but I do not subscribe to the sensational ideas you put forth. "Total Disarray?"

Ice Melting?

http://www.randomjottings.net/archives/003023.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0110/p14s01-sten.html

http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=851

It seems the topic is still a matter of scientific debate.

FWIW, I pay a great deal of attention to the global warming debate. It matters to me because in the next year or so, my family is going to roll the dice and buy a sizeable farm in South Dakota. I am getting back to my roots and I am going to spend the rest of my days working the land. So this issue matters to me. Alot.

What will a woman with 5 children do if, God forbid, something happens to McCain who is 72 is, which I doubt, elected into office? Will she be able to run this country in his absence??? Don't think so. She doesn't have the experience.

Here is what I do not understand... This woman is everything the womens liberation types want all women to be. Yet, now she is being derided for it. Can one of you ladies explain how it is all of a sudden a BAD thing to be a working mother?

VOTE OBAMA!!!!

Because he is better than YOU! LOL

[pomtzu]

Here is what I do not understand... This woman is everything the womens liberation types want all women to be. Yet, now she is being derided for it. Can one of you ladies explain how it is all of a sudden a BAD thing to be a working mother?

I'm a lady and I don't think there is anything BAD about being a working mother - IF YOU ARE QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB!!! Sorry, but Obama will get my vote based on the selection of Palin by Mcain. I don't think there's anyone out there that hasn't given the thought to the idea that McCain stands a very good chance of not even being around long enough to complete a whole term. Then what???? I don't know about anyone else, but I sure don't want to take a chance on Palin - I'm just not a gambler. She may have many good qualities and abilities, but being the leader of this great country isn't one of them. Ten or fifteen years from now might be a different story.

[Puckstop31]

I'm a lady and I don't think there is anything BAD about being a working mother - IF YOU ARE QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB!!! Sorry, but Obama will get my vote based on the selection of Palin by Mcain. I don't think there's anyone out there that hasn't given the thought to the idea that McCain stands a very good chance of not even being around long enough to complete a whole term. Then what???? I don't know about anyone else, but I sure don't want to take a chance on Palin - I'm just not a gambler. She may have many good qualities and abilities, but being the leader of this great country isn't one of them. Ten or fifteen years from now might be a different story.

Fair enough. Still, the same could be said for Obama. I mean, he does not want to be a heartbeat away from being POTUS, he wants to BE the POTUS.

I am sure its been hashed out before, but at least Palin has some executive experience.

Than main reason I like Palin is because of her LESS government stance on things. More government = less freedom. You can be free or you can be "safe". I choose free. But that is just me I suppose.

[Pam]

I am sure its been hashed out before, but at least Palin has some executive experience.

That is not enough for most of us. Last night I watched Larry King and he had on James Carville (who I have never cared for) and some others on his panel. I almost felt sorry for the McCain people trying to defend his selection. Carville hit them and hit them hard with some of his questions which they tried to not answer. What qualifications does she have to lead this nation with three wars ongoing at this time? I guess we are to assume that McCain will handle the wars and she will handle the economy. Neither thought gives me great comfort. I think McCain has shot himself in the foot big time, but not because there is anything wrong with Ms. Palen. She is just the wrong gal for the job IMHO.

[pomtzu]

You can be free or you can be "safe". I choose free.

The way I see it - we have both. Do you really think Palin has the ability and experience to keep it that way if she were put in the position where she had to?

[Edwina's Secretary]

Perhaps I am not "with it" but isn't there some embarrassment involved in being a 17 year old unmarried and pregnant?

I am surprised that a mother would subject her daughter to the incredible scrutiny - late night tv show jokes and everything else that goes with it by being selected as a candidate for vice president. In this circumstance I would think you would want to protect your daughter from that.

(And before anyone gets all uppity about making jokes about the children a.) I agree but b.) there is reality. Was it Rush Limbaugh who make the joke that the Clintons had a dog in the White House and then put up a photo of Chelsea??)

[Puckstop31]

Perhaps I am not "with it" but isn't there some embarrassment involved in being a 17 year old unmarried and pregnant?

I am surprised that a mother would subject her daughter to the incredible scrutiny - late night tv show jokes and everything else that goes with it by being selected as a candidate for vice president. In this circumstance I would think you would want to protect your daughter from that.

Perhaps, and just perhaps as I am not a mind reader... But perhaps she did not want her daughter to live with the burden of knowing that her mother passed on the opportunity of a lifetime because of her. Perhaps her daughter having this child is a blessing to them and to her.

Thats the thing, we don't know. A crying shame that both sides of the aisle are playing it up in the press.

[Pam]

Perhaps I am not "with it" but isn't there some embarrassment involved in being a 17 year old unmarried and pregnant?

Aww c'mon Sara, even you know that isn't true. Back when I graduated high school (in 1964 ) we had two KNOWN pregnancies and who knows how many others went off somewhere to have their babies or to kill them. Even Obama took the high road on this, as I expected him too, by saying that his own mother was 18 when she had him. I am sure it was not convenient for her as a teen to have a bi-racial baby either back then. Think of the whole abortion situation that we have now. What if Obama's mother had chosen that route. Who would the Democrats have for a candidate now? Don't get me wrong - I think McCain really blew it with his selection but I applaud Palen's daughter for her decision to keep this baby!

[Edwina's Secretary]

We must have gone to different schools Pam! I remember one girl who got pregnant in high school and she "went away". It was very hush-hush.

I still would want to spare my daughter the embarrassment.

So, I'm sorry, I didn't know there is no embarrassment to being an unwed mother at 17! A different world indeed!

What's odd is when I read the articles about that school on the East Coast where there was allegedly an outbreak of young girls wanting to get pregnant -- it made such a fuss???

[caseysmom]

Obviously this is a bit of a scandal otherwise it wouldn't be all over the news even in this day and age. Especially when you have taken the moral high road. Do I think its anybodies business, heck no leave the kid alone.

[sparks19]

We must have gone to different schools Pam! I remember one girl who got pregnant in high school and she "went away". It was very hush-hush.

I still would want to spare my daughter the embarrassment.

So, I'm sorry, I didn't know there is no embarrassment to being an unwed mother at 17! A different world indeed!

it certainly is... we were just talking about this on another pet forum. How they wouldn't even show desi and Lucy sitting in bed as a married couple. My mom told me about how "Wake up little Susie" was banned from radio play because it implied that the girl and the guy spent the night together.

Now we have movies about teen pregnancy... bordering on comedies. songs talk about sex all the time, we have movies with full frontal nudity that are not considered pornography and it's not unusual to see teens caught in bed together on TV shows.

Very different world.

[Pam]

We must have gone to different schools Pam! I remember one girl who got pregnant in high school and she "went away". It was very hush-hush.

I still would want to spare my daughter the embarrassment.

So, I'm sorry, I didn't know there is no embarrassment to being an unwed mother at 17! A different world indeed!

Yes, one of the girls that got pregnant in my high school was one of my very best friends! It totally blew me away. She carried the baby almost to the end of the school year and I remember many mornings seeing her head off to the ladies room with morning sickness. It was a hard time back then, but not now at all. As far as sparing embarrassment within one's family - when you decide to run for office your life becomes an open book. You either take the heat or get out of the kitchen.