Done with Coca Cola!

[jennielynn1970]

Jazz,
Or anyone else with a few hours to spare.


Drink a Red Bull.

If you think that a Mountain Dew put you into space! When I hear that people mix that with vodka I get nervous. Wired drunks? Uh-huh, that's what we need.

I had a Red Bull ONCE. Only once. I think that it interacted with my antidepressant or something. I got all emotional, was just paranoid and freaked out. It was not pleasant, and it took a while for it to wear off.

I've heard of people doing some kind of shots with Red bull and vodka as well.

[RICHARD]

I had a Red Bull ONCE. Only once.

I had to sit at my desk and my fingers couldn't type fast enough. That sucked.
Now, if I had a job as a marathon runner.....

[Catty1]

Stevia is actually a 'sugar'.

Regular white sugar is made from sugar cane, or 'cane sugar'.

Stevia is derived from the Stevia plant. It is NOT calorie-free, but it takes a LOT less Stevia to sweeten the same as white sugar, so there are far fewer calories involved.

http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfood/soft.html
Early warning in 1942:

Warnings about the dangers of soft drink consumption came to us as early as 1942 when the American Medical Association’s (AMA) Council on Food and Nutrition made the following noble statement: "From the health point of view it is desirable especially to have restriction of such use of sugar as is represented by consumption of sweetened carbonated beverages and forms of candy which are of low nutritional value. The Council believes it would be in the interest of the public health for all practical means to be taken to limit consumption of sugar in any form in which it fails to be combined with significant proportions of other foods of high nutritive quality."

Re: the fizzy stuff [read labels!]:

http://www.mindconnection.com/librar...softdrinks.htm

Reading the rest of this article may be the best use you've ever made of 5 minutes. Yeah, we know Pepsi will never sponsor an ad on this site. But your health is more important to us.

It's tragic that the "beverage" industry shoves this toxic brew at human beings. Let's take a closer look at what it does.

The carbonation in all soft drinks causes calcium loss in the bones through a three-stage process:

1. The carbonation irritates the stomach.
2. The stomach "cures" the irritation the only way it knows how. It adds the only antacid at its disposal: calcium. It gets this from the blood.
3. The blood, now low on calcium, replenishes its supply from the bones. If it did not do this, muscular and brain function would be severely impaired.

But, the story doesn't end there. Another problem with most soft drinks is they also contain phosphoric acid (not the same as the carbonation, which is carbon dioxide mixed with the water). This substance also causes a drawdown on the store of calcium.

So, soft drinks soften your bones (actually, they make them weak and brittle) in three ways:

1. Carbonation reduces the calcium in the bones.
2. Phosphoric acid reduces the calcium in the bones.
3. The beverage replaces a calcium-containing alternative, such as milk or water. Milk and water are not excellent calcium sources, but they are sources.

From the same page:

And now you know why bone damage formerly apparent only in the very old is now showing up in teenagers.

HELLO REGGIE!

One more from:

Soft Drinks:
America's Other Drinking Problem

http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfood/soft.html

[long article but well worth the read!]

While our children are exposed to unremitting publicity for soft drinks, evidence of their dangers accumulates. The consumption of soft drinks, like land-mine terrain, is riddled with hazards. We as practitioners and advocates of a healthy life-style recognize that consuming even as little as one or two sodas per day is undeniably connected to a myriad of pathologies. The most commonly associated health risks are obesity, diabetes and other blood sugar disorders, tooth decay, osteoporosis and bone fractures, nutritional deficiencies, heart disease, food addictions and eating disorders, neurotransmitter dysfunction from chemical sweeteners, and neurological and adrenal disorders from excessive caffeine.

[jennielynn1970]

Candace, so even though I'm drinking seltzer water, thinking it is better for me than soda, it's actually just as bad in regards to calcium loss because it's fizzes? Darn!! I need the fizz. I gotta have fizz!! Flat stuff just doesn't cut it for me. Although I guess I'd rather have my bones and not have esophageal cancer than have fizzzzzz.

I swear everything is bad for you these days.

[Lady's Human]

Water isn't a source of calcium at all, and milk is an excellent source of calcium.

Throws a little doubt on the rest of the science involved in the article.

BTW, the ph of the soda (normally around 2.5-4.0) is actually higher than the ph of your stomach acid (1.0-2.0).

[Catty1]

Yeah, that sentence struck me as a bit weird...in context with the rest of it, I think they were saying that soft drinks replace healthier drinks such as milk and water.

Either someone was not proofreading, or they get their water supply from a strange source! But there seems to be enough documentation about this from many other sources to give it validity.

Jenn - all I can say is 'read the label'. Find out what's in the stuff as far as phosphorus etc. I don't know how much one or two would hurt if you take a good supplement.

It's kind of like the 'low-fat' deal...it might be low-fat, but that means it's also LOADED with sugar!

[jennielynn1970]

Jenn - all I can say is 'read the label'. Find out what's in the stuff as far as phosphorus etc. I don't know how much one or two would hurt if you take a good supplement.

It's kind of like the 'low-fat' deal...it might be low-fat, but that means it's also LOADED with sugar!

My seltzer water says carbonated water and natural flavor under ingredients. That's it. The only thing that isn't a zero is sodium, which is 5mg.

Where would I find the phosphorus stuff listed??

[jennielynn1970]

I did find this on carbonated water and calcium loss

[Lady's Human]

Jenn,

Anything over (I forget whether it's 10 ppm or a slightly higher number) has to be listed on the label.

There isn't any phosphoric acid in seltzer water, as there's nothing in it which needs either the flavor or the acid. All seltzer water consists of is carbonated water and a flavoring, usually an essential oil.

The web page you got that article from is full of holes, Catty. Scroll down to where it's talking about "average PH of the human body" or some other such nonsense. It gives a very definite value of 7.63, which screams BS. Given that there are areas in the human body with a very, very low PH, (stomach, intestines, liver), to have an average of 7.63 implies there are areas in the body which have a PH approaching 14, which is frankly lunacy.

Again, given that the average gastric acid PH is in the 1-2 range, and soda would actually RAISE that PH, (ph of 2.5-4), why would the stomach need to pump antacid into the stomach? That can of Coke you just drank RAISED the ph of your stomach(which would require additional acid to maintain the PH), not lowered it (which would require the antacid).

[RICHARD]

One thing about the content labels is that they tell you what is in your food and drink, but don't address the way your body uses those minerals and vitamins.

During a conversation with a friend years ago the subject of vitamins and meds in our water system came up.

Apparently the sewer systems are filled with vitamin and medications in pill forms that are not totally digested by the human body. The problem has become worse. If we cannot digest or absorb V's and M's in pill forms we are screwed.

The other 'worry' about getting your daily requirements of anything depend on what and how much you eat.

If you eat something that had 1000 calories, 30 percent of your daily sodium and 50% calcium, You have to balance that out with foods that have 1000 calories, 70% sodium and 50% calcium.

otherwise you are not balancing your diet! You overload in one or all areas!