McCain/Palin ???

**Suki Wingy** · 08-30-2008, 11:02 AM

I don't care that she's a woman. I care about the fact that she is against everything I believe in when it comes to big topics.

**Puckstop31** · 08-30-2008, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Suki Wingy

I don't care that she's a woman. I care about the fact that she is against everything I believe in when it comes to big topics.

Yeah, that damn freedom and our ability to keep OUR money.

This board is SO entertaining.

**sasvermont** · 08-30-2008, 11:34 AM

I had a feeling this topic would draw some interesting comments. I am not enjoying some of the tones, but it is in Dog House, where it belongs. I hope everyone will remain civil.

And I hope everyone will vote!

**sparks19** · 08-30-2008, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by sasvermont

I had a feeling this topic would draw some interesting comments. I am not enjoying some of the tones, but it is in Dog House, where it belongs. I hope everyone will remain civil.

And I hope everyone will vote!

I wish I could

**Puckstop31** · 08-30-2008, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by sasvermont

I had a feeling this topic would draw some interesting comments. I am not enjoying some of the tones, but it is in Dog House, where it belongs. I hope everyone will remain civil.

And I hope everyone will vote!

I'll try, mom. LOL

But hey, politics is a contact sport. Sometimes you get a bruise. Just like life SHOULD be. Sadly too many people feel that 'somebody' should keep them safe, warm, fed etc... That 'somebody' is YOURSELF. Not me, not the government... Of course in times of trouble we all need somewhere to turn. That is what family, church, clubs, community is for.

I know I sometimes come across as harsh and well, usually I mean to. But I am very passionate about these things. Spent to many years in crappy places fighting for this country to allow certain people to piss away all the freedom bought with blood.

All this being said, I would love to have a beer with anybody in this debate. I am sure we could have a great time, as long as we don't talk about this. LOL

**Suki Wingy** · 08-30-2008, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Puckstop31

Yeah, that damn freedom and our ability to keep OUR money.

This board is SO entertaining.

Actually, I can not bring myself to ever vote for a person who is against abortion, against same sex marriage, and supports the hunting of apex predators, and even pays people per head on them. I really don't mind if you hunt game animals to use for your own food and resources, but the ecosystem is a lot more delicate than most people care to think. Every little thing is interconnected and drastically reducing numbers of apex predators, like grey and timber wolves, can do quite a lot more harm than it can ever do good. Call me crazy, but I think keeping the ecosystem in balance is jut as important as health care.

In my own little convoluted and delusional mind, people would be smart enough and ethical enough to have an anarchy, but I know that will never happen because not everyone has the same ethics and not everyone is wise enough to leave people who don't think the same way as them alone, or to take it upon themselves to do what they can to help others who may be in need of a little help.

I am probably going to get flamed badly for saying that but that is what I believe in, and I respect everybody's opinion, without first jumping down their throats because it's different from mine. Plus, I know how to use the block feature.

**sparks19** · 08-30-2008, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Suki Wingy

Actually, I can not bring myself to ever vote for a person who is against abortion, against same sex marriage, and supports the hunting of apex predators, and even pays people per head on them. I really don't mind if you hunt game animals to use for your own food and resources, but the ecosystem is a lot more delicate than most people care to think. Every little thing is interconnected and drastically reducing numbers of apex predators, like grey and timber wolves, can do quite a lot more harm than it can ever do good. Call me crazy, but I think keeping the ecosystem in balance is jut as important as health care.

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Now this I can get on board with. I do not support hunting just for a pelt if you aren't going to use the meat. I don't know many REAL hunters that do either. But I know there are a lot of buttheads out there that do this. That is not something I will ever agree with.

Ted Nugent was on the Glenn Beck show last night and they were talking about hunting. He was saying that everything he harvests during his hunts he donates to homeless shelters. Every ounce of meat goes to feed starving families. I love that idea. There are a lot of hunters that do the same thing and I think it's wonderful to "spread the wealth" so to speak.

But I don't support hunting strictly for fur or antlers. If you hunt it... EAT IT.

**Grace** · 08-30-2008, 10:03 PM

A question from Sarah Palin - What does a VP do??

Apparently, being VP is important someway, somehow . . . . . not too long ago, when there was talk of the possibility that Obama would select Governor Kaine of Virginia as his Vice President, Fox News correspondent Karl Rove said, ''With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a Governor for three years. He's been able, but undistinguished. I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done ... [Kaine] was mayor of the 105th largest city in America. And again, with all due respect to Richmond, Virginia, it's smaller than Chula Vista, California; Aurora, Colorado; Mesa, or Gilbert, Arizona; North Las Vegas, or Henderson, Nevada. It's not a big town.'' . . . . Yet, Kaine is Governor of a state with 8 million compared to Palin with 600,000. And he was mayor of Richmond (200,000) compared to Palin being a mayor to Wasilla (6,000).

Interesting.

**kuhio98** · 08-30-2008, 11:33 PM

Two things I'm sure about ~ No matter who wins the next election....

Almost 50% of the US population will be disappointed

and

The US will survive

Luckily, no one person can hold office long enough to destroy the country.

If we only had 1 political party, we would have doomed ourselves long ago.

**Karen** · 08-30-2008, 11:45 PM

Note how I don't call the United States by the term "America". This is not America, America covers everything from Canada down to Argentina.

In most senses, people use "The Americas" to refer to the continents, and America to refer to The United States of America. This does not make us ignorant. After all, we refer to ourselves as "Americans" - not as United Statesians. I am not saying that other residents of North America, South America and Central America aren't "American" in that they live in The Americas, but each country has its own designation for nationality.