Child killer smiles as he hears sentence

[moosmom]

I'd like to wipe that smug grin off that face with hatchet. UGH!!!!

[Catty1]

Re: that smile...I thought it was at hearing his sentence until I saw the ENTIRE photo - and he is smiling at something someone two feet away from him is saying. So - that particular news story flies in the face of the others which say he had no reaction to the sentence.

shepgirl - BTW, it's "schizophrenia", which a CPS worker should know how to spell, and leave the diagnosis to those more qualified. There is no way to know at this point what kind of upbringing the murderer had - so it's also as likely that the mom and dad, like MANY parents, did everything they possibly could, and despaired because nothing DID work (mental health care was not all wonderful 35 or 40 years ago, and even now sometimes treatments Do Not Work).

Your eagerness to blame the parents tells me a lot more about you than it does the murderer, I'm afraid. I know you are a parent; perhaps that is why you are hard on them. I hope you are not too hard on yourself. JMO.

He did receive an official diagnosis in 1980, which can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_E._Duncan_III

[Catty1]

This is just about the only biography I have found so far.

First, one excerpt from his blog:

Friday May 13, 2005

Does anything matter? My mother is crying right now, because her son is in trouble again. She tried to raise a good son, and she knows her son has a good heart, so why does he do these things? She is probably more hurt and confused than me. Does it matter? It hurts me to know these things, but DOES IT MATTER???

http://jaimesite.homestead.com/josepheduncaniii.html

BIOGRAPHY:

A repeat and violent Level III Sex Offender with a long rap sheet, Joseph E. Duncan III committed his first sexual assault when he preyed upon a five year old boy. At the time, Duncan himself was only age twelve.

One of five children born into a military family in Fort Bragg, N.C., Duncan relocated frequently as he was growing up. He dropped out of high school prior to his graduation and was characterized as lonely and displaced, particularly after his parents’ divorce in 1979.

Joe Duncan served most of his adult life incarcerated just outside Tacoma, Washington. His biological mother is a resident of the same State. Once released, he relocated to North Dakota and was attending North Dakota State University in the city of Fargo. He worked to complete a degree in computer science and would have graduated with a BA in May of 2005. Duncan was as a Teacher's Assistant at Edmonds Community College were he taught students introductory programming courses. He also was involved in several software development projects for both North Dakota State University and a firm known as, "iCat Corporation." Duncan used his computer skills on his personal time to create and maintain his own website and blog.

[moosmom]

A repeat and violent Level III Sex Offender with a long rap sheet, Joseph E. Duncan III committed his first sexual assault when he preyed upon a five year old boy. At the time, Duncan himself was only age twelve.

One of five children born into a military family in Fort Bragg, N.C., Duncan relocated frequently as he was growing up. He dropped out of high school prior to his graduation and was characterized as lonely and displaced, particularly after his parents’ divorce in 1979.

Joe Duncan served most of his adult life incarcerated just outside Tacoma, Washington. His biological mother is a resident of the same State. Once released, he relocated to North Dakota and was attending North Dakota State University in the city of Fargo. He worked to complete a degree in computer science and would have graduated with a BA in May of 2005. Duncan was as a Teacher's Assistant at Edmonds Community College were he taught students introductory programming courses. He also was involved in several software development projects for both North Dakota State University and a firm known as, "iCat Corporation." Duncan used his computer skills on his personal time to create and maintain his own website and blog.

= SCUMBAG

[shepgirl]

Catty1 I am not disagreeing with the sentence or trying to whitewash this guy, all I'm saying is that he became this way because of some unknown reason. As for schiz. yes, I mispelled it becuase half my post was missing. If you don't type fast enough you lose everything. As you read it started with violence towards animals and this is what I have observed so many times with kids who turn out this way. I also read that his parents were divorced which doesn't help children. Who is he referring to when he talks about his mom...his biological one or the stepmother?
Not that I am eager to blame parents but if you dig deep enough, the trouble usually starts there. Fortunately, yes, I do have children and was lucky enough to never run into problems with them.
As for being hard on myself I had goals to meet and I met then, no ifs or buts. I was raised with rules and learned it was easier to follow the rules than to attract attention the wrong way BUT I was also shown love and empathy...was he this lucky?
As for CPS worker, thanks for the compliment but no thanks, my stomach couldn't handle the stress of it all.

[Catty1]

shepgirl, I didn't think for a moment you were trying to defend this guy at all...nobody does. But I gotta wonder - there are kids who go through divorces and having step-family and turn out FINE.

I am just postulating that sometimes people are born with a piece missing - like an arm, or part of a brain chemical or something - and nothing nohow seems to be able to change that. Good parenting may put off the inevitable - bad parenting might accelerate it.

Sometimes nothing external seems to help.

[Hellow]

I think that someone should wipe that evil smile off his face with a hammer, just as he wiped 4 innocent people off the earth with one.

[Hellow]

shepgirl, I didn't think for a moment you were trying to defend this guy at all...nobody does. But I gotta wonder - there are kids who go through divorces and having step-family and turn out FINE.

I am just postulating that sometimes people are born with a piece missing - like an arm, or part of a brain chemical or something - and nothing nohow seems to be able to change that. Good parenting may put off the inevitable - bad parenting might accelerate it.

Sometimes nothing external seems to help.

Some people need to be intelligent enough to see this in their mind and put a stop to it mentally, before it turns into the end effect.