Are you kiddin me?

[jennielynn1970]

Sad to say, but sometimes, with farm life, that's just the views that farmers have of the animals. My great grandmother was heartless in my eyes, but she just never formed a bond with the animals on the farm, because some day, she might have to do something like this person did.

I don't advocate it. I couldn't do it. And I was not a fan of my great grandmother either. She was abrasive and mean, and spit tobacco through her front teeth!! She was in her 70's and 80's during the time I knew her.

[Catty1]

Farm life - you do it with the tools at hand; likely seems a waste of gas money to drive however far you need to in order to get to AC. If they even really know about AC.

It would take a lot of money, but sure would be nice to have a lot of info booths or mobile info vehicles for rural events.

[Taz_Zoee]

I'm almost ashamed to admit this, but my dad has done this with a couple rabid cats we had when I was little. I didn't ask questions, I was too young. But I did know what was going on.
He could never do anything like that now. One of my sister's GSD's was practically dead out in the kennel and he couldn't even bring himself to go get him to take him to the vet to be PTS. My brother had to do it.
As a side note: I also do not care for my father. I do not agree with his ways, on several different topics. So to me, that's just the way he WAS.
As others stated, we do not really know the entire story. And it is obviously a child who wrote it. Either way it is a very sad thing.
RIP Sadie. You did live a long life.

[Angel_14]

That is so sad.

RIP Sadie

[Alysser]

In a suburb, city setting you would never see something like this done. We are just not used to see this type of stuff go on. In modern suburb/city settings, it is not an acceptable act. But some things just don't change, and although you may not agree with it, it's just how things are. While I'm sure rural society has improved in many ways, this just is one way. But I have met many modern farmers who make alot of money, we now have mobile vets, etc. Obviously, to some people animals are just that, animals. I'm not saying they didn't love the dog but it is very unfourtunate. Although I don't agree with it and I would never be able to do something like that, I guess some people still find it acceptable.

[lizbud]

And I was not a fan of my great grandmother either. She was abrasive and mean, and spit tobacco through her front teeth!! She was in her 70's and 80's during the time I knew her.

Sounds like she would fit right in at "Thursdays Cyber Bar"

[jennielynn1970]

Sounds like she would fit right in at "Thursdays Cyber Bar"

I don't think you'd want her there either.

My dad remembers how she treated hunting dogs. He was raised by her, not his mom, and he had a little beagle that he loved and took hunting with him when he was young.

Well, the beagle didn't like her, and one day it was walking by her, stopped and peed on her leg. She shot the beagle. She was a nasty old lady.

[lizbud]

Well, the beagle didn't like her, and one day it was walking by her, stopped and peed on her leg. She shot the beagle. She was a nasty old lady.

What a mean old B**** .

Poor pup.

[kt_luvs_kitties]

I live in a VERY country area. The booneys And it is very typical for people, and I use the term "people" very lightly, for them to do this kinda thing. It is unbelieveable. Disgusting. WRONG!

The theory here about stray and feral cats, and dogs as well, is "shoot, shovel, and shut up".

I just cant understand.. I never will

[sparks19]

so did I read this right? he shot her?

what's the big deal?

Honestly if he gave her a kill shot she woudln't have suffered at all. I don't understand the outrage.

now obviously I don't know the whole story with how or why this dog was suffering but if my dog was in severe pain I wouldn't subject them to the drive to the vets... I would shoot them and put them out of their misery right then and there. It wouldn't be easy for me but I don't think it's fair to make the dog suffer on the drive to the vets.

Honestly, When Teddy passed away... I wish that I hadn't made him endure that car ride and die on the way. I don't even know if he could feel the pain but I just know he wasn't really in there. His eyes were a blank stare but he was breathing. he was unresponsive and could not or would not even open his mouth to stop himself from biting his lip. if I had known then what I know now I would have shot him and put an end to his misery immediately.

How does he know she didn't suffer? Well if he knew how to use a gun and shot her in the right place you can pretty much see that death is instant. If you don't think he can be sure she didn't suffer from a kill shot how can you be sure that your pets don't suffer from the drugs injected to put them to sleep?

this may make me a "monster" but I just don't see the big deal. Like I said if she was in serious discomfort I think that forcing her to endure a bumpy car ride to the vet is more cruel.

don't get me wrong... I am not at all advocating shooting a healthy animal just to get rid of them but in cases of REAL discomfort I just don't see the problem. is it the gun that bothers you?

I am also not saying that it would not be difficult for me to shoot one of my animals. It would be very hard but it would also be very hard for me to make them endure the car ride to the vet to be put down.

[kt_luvs_kitties]

It said she was old and had arthritis... Not in dire and horrible circumstances... And about to die and that was the ONLY way to stop the pain...

I would not shoot my kid.. I would not shoot my pets.. I would not shoot anything, under any circumstances. IMO, it is inhumane.. ESP when vets are available.

It is just so sad.

[Alysser]

[QUOTE=kt_luvs_kitties;2040862]It said she was old and had arthritis... Not in dire and horrible circumstances... And about to die and that was the ONLY way to stop the pain...
QUOTE]

I kind of agree with sparks on this one too. Also, I obviously don't agree with killing a healthy animal but I don't think this dog was exactly healthy. Arthritis is a horrible, horrible disease. I had to put my baby to sleep thanks to this disease and it's horrible to watch an animal suffer through the pain of arthritis then getting shot and kill instantly. If you think about it before they had putting a dog to sleep, they always did this. The dog was probably suffering a great deal, although there are options to treat this disease or help simmer it down these people "were broke" and would not have been able to afford it. I doubt they would have tried but just putting my two cents in.

[Taz_Zoee]

I've always thought this was just a strange thing......we can end an animals suffering by having them PTS. But we cannot do this with humans, because it's considered murder. Even though a human could actually TELL us they don't want to live any longer.
When my grandpa was in the hospital during his last days he was in so much pain. I will NEVER forget the look in his eyes. He had piercing blue eyes and it felt like he was begging me to help him end the misery he was in. He had to suffer until that day he was finally at peace.

Sorry, this is a little off topic, but it's what came to mind.

[sparks19]

I kind of agree with sparks on this one too. Also, I obviously don't agree with killing a healthy animal but I don't think this dog was exactly healthy. Arthritis is a horrible, horrible disease. I had to put my baby to sleep thanks to this disease and it's horrible to watch an animal suffer through the pain of arthritis then getting shot and kill instantly. If you think about it before they had putting a dog to sleep, they always did this. The dog was probably suffering a great deal, although there are options to treat this disease or help simmer it down these people "were broke" and would not have been able to afford it. I doubt they would have tried but just putting my two cents in.

yeah I just don't see it as anymore inhumane than PTS to sleep with drugs.

No I wouldn't shoot my child but I also wouldn't have her euthanized either so I'm not sure that's a fair comparison.

this is probably way off topic and a wierd comparison but one time a hummingbird flew into the window and I ran outside to see if it was OK. it was laying on the ground still alive but twitching around. I touched it's tushy and it ended up getting up and flying away... it was only stunned. but if it were unable to fly away I would have broken it's neck and put it out of it's misery. I have done it with one of my hamsters that was dying slowly. it's not a pleasant thing to do and I don't enjoy breaking necks but immediate death is the most humane thing I could have done. IMO

[Miss Z]

so did I read this right? he shot her?

what's the big deal?

Honestly if he gave her a kill shot she woudln't have suffered at all. I don't understand the outrage.

now obviously I don't know the whole story with how or why this dog was suffering but if my dog was in severe pain I wouldn't subject them to the drive to the vets... I would shoot them and put them out of their misery right then and there. It wouldn't be easy for me but I don't think it's fair to make the dog suffer on the drive to the vets.

Honestly, When Teddy passed away... I wish that I hadn't made him endure that car ride and die on the way. I don't even know if he could feel the pain but I just know he wasn't really in there. His eyes were a blank stare but he was breathing. he was unresponsive and could not or would not even open his mouth to stop himself from biting his lip. if I had known then what I know now I would have shot him and put an end to his misery immediately.

How does he know she didn't suffer? Well if he knew how to use a gun and shot her in the right place you can pretty much see that death is instant. If you don't think he can be sure she didn't suffer from a kill shot how can you be sure that your pets don't suffer from the drugs injected to put them to sleep?

this may make me a "monster" but I just don't see the big deal. Like I said if she was in serious discomfort I think that forcing her to endure a bumpy car ride to the vet is more cruel.

don't get me wrong... I am not at all advocating shooting a healthy animal just to get rid of them but in cases of REAL discomfort I just don't see the problem. is it the gun that bothers you?

I am also not saying that it would not be difficult for me to shoot one of my animals. It would be very hard but it would also be very hard for me to make them endure the car ride to the vet to be put down.

I agree with you in a way. Shooting, when done correctly, can be humane. Old and sick horses are, more often than not, shot instead of put to sleep. Deer fatally wounded in car accidents are often shot to prevent them struggling off somewhere remote and dying in agony. Why, because this is a dog, is it different?

When I did my work experience at a veterinary practice, one of the vets there got her gun license. Before then, I'd never really thought I might have to shoot things when I become a vet, and for a while I was a bit uncomfortable with it. Once it was explained more to me about how to use the gun properly, I now know I would have no more of a problem shooting a dying animal than putting it to sleep.

On the other hand, I can see why the dogster page is a cause for concern. We'll never know whether the dog actually was suffering and had a poor quality of life or whether the owner just decided the dog wasn't worth keeping anymore because it was older and slower. We'll never know if the dog was shot in a humane manner. It's very sad, yes, but either way, we can't do much about it now.

RIP pup.