Thanks everyone, that was very interesting what you wrote about storm and his teeth, i never knew that the wet food could cause more pain, yes i am afraid he is overdue for this dental, and i am hoping that all will go well and that once that is done he will improve a great deal,if need be we will book him in next week, if it is causing him too much pain, i will take the vets advice on that, just want my old boy well again, he is not eating very much, but enough to keep him going, he enjoyed some nice red meat this morning, i am basically feeding him what he will eat, just so he will eat, and some cat biscuits at lunchtime,and i have given him a few more syringes of water, he also drank from the bowl, so hopefully he won't get de-hydrated, fingers and paws crossed, gosh i get so nervous taking my furbaby to the vet, i will have to let hubby stay with him when they do the blood test, and to think i have had two children and been there through all their ups and downs, lol, still it is harder on furbabies, i guess it is like when your children are babies and you can't tell them or explain what is happening to them.