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    Ugh. I am sick to my stomach.


    "Did you ever notice when you blow in a dog's face he gets mad at you?
    But when you take him in a car he sticks his head out the window." -- Steve Bluestone

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    Race horses are treated better than the jockeys.

    Matter of fact, when a jockey 'breaks down' they don't have the luxury of being euthanized.

    I saw a couple of documentaries on racing and was shocked at the treatment of the men that ride the horses. Check out the money a jockey makes for a win- I cannot remember the exact amount one Derby jockey got for a win-but it wasn't anywhere near a race purse.

    First of all, I am not a betting man. I have been to the track twice and stood at the finish line for a few races. There is nothing more wonderous than seeing and hearing a pack of horses run. I am very interested in anatomy and find that part of horse racing extremely interesting- to me any running animal is stunning.

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    I am not a huge fan of horses being used for anything except pulling the Bud wagon- THOSE horses are incredible and spoiled!!!!

    I find the horse rides in New York, farms that let horse pull wagons of visitors or animals that are couped up all week until some kid comes out to ride on the weekend as being treated cruelly.



    Race horses are so frigging cared for it's not funny.

    No, that does not excuse anyone riding a horse into the ground for sport-but when I have seen some of ways people care for their run of the mill horses, I'd rather see a horse be taken and raced at a track. Imagine that. Having the best stall, food, medical treatment, exercise and grooming.

    I live near Hansen Dam/Lake View Terrace and the Griffith Park stables-both are horse areas-when my brother was working with horses I saw many people who woiuld punch, whip, kick and mistreat those poor animals way worse than running them on a track.


    It wasn't a noble end to that horse's life, but there are far worse cases of animals being beaten, totured and killed. I am sure that there are many horses put down on race tracks all across the world- but our outrage is piqued only when it's on the tube.

    One thing that can be said about the race were the people who were really concerned about that horse. The people who were freaking out about the Eight Belles are the same ones who would drive down a street and not even bother to help a human being that was lying on a public road.

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    That breaks my heart. I don't care for any animal racing. Run free at the RB, beautiful girl.

    9/3/13
    I did the right thing by setting you free
    But the pain is very deep.
    If only I could turn back time, forever, you I'd keep.
    I miss you


    I hear you whimper in your sleep
    I gently pet you and say, no bad dreams
    It will be alright, to my dog as dark as night.

    Fur as dark as the night.
    Join me on this flight.
    Paws of love that follow me.
    In my heart you'll forever be.
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    How I wish I could hold you near.
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    So sad...I couldn't believe it when I turned out my computer. My friend was just at a memorial for Barbaro. I don't have the same reaction to horseracing as I do to dog fighting, poorly run "zoo's", etc... I hope the horses actually enjoy racing and I believe they are well carefored. This case though makes me angry...she was too young to be run like this and her little joints just couldn't take it. I hope they will look at this and pass some stricter regulations on when a horse is ready to run at this level.

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    Well, at least now Eight Belles is pain free and can romp and run and be free. RIP, Eight Belles.
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    Mary



    "Time and unforeseen occurrence befall us all." Ecclesiastes 9:11

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    Here's a news story on it for those who may be interested:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/rah/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns
    in on the joke and i cant stop laughing

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    There was an article in our paper yesterday about Native Dancer and his bloodline. Every horse in the Derby was a descendant of this horse, including Eight Belles.

    These two paragraphs tell it all.

    How one stallion gained so much influence over the sport is a story about market forces, genetics and in some cases greed. His bloodline's greatest asset is that it consistently produces precocious, speedy thoroughbreds that dominate the Derby and other Triple Crown events -- giving owners a safer return on their investments. But that success has led breeders to mate Native Dancer's progeny so often that the thoroughbred gene pool has shrunk. And as it shrinks, another trait of the Native Dancer line is becoming more pronounced.

    Like hemophilia in the Russian royal family, Native Dancer's line has a tragic flaw. Thanks in part to heavily muscled legs and a violent, herky-jerky running style, Native Dancer and his descendants have had trouble with their feet. Injuries have cut short the careers of several of his most famous kin, most notably Barbaro, a great-great-great-grandson who was injured during the Preakness Stakes and was later put to death.

    For anyone interested in reading the entire article, Here it is. Lengthy but very interesting.

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    The vet on call for yesterday's race gave the techical summation of the injuries that EB suffered.

    She broke both ankles, on one side the condyle broke and the other she suffered a sesamoid fracture.

    The condyle is the end part of a bone and the sesamoids are the group of small bones that make up the ankle. Humans have teh same kind of bones in their legs

    Grab your ankle and feel the two bumps that stick out on either side. The break occured in between those bumps on one side and lower down, in the sesamoid bones on the other.

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    I just wrote this:

    Eight Belles in the wind
    Beautiful melody that will never end
    Running free now without pain
    May your death not have been in vain

    You ran for the roses with heart and soul
    True to your lineage from long ago
    With heavy hearts, our tears fall
    You shouldn't have died at all

    The rainbow bridge is now your home
    With never ending pastures to roam
    Eight Belles in the wind
    Beautiful melody that will never end

    9/3/13
    I did the right thing by setting you free
    But the pain is very deep.
    If only I could turn back time, forever, you I'd keep.
    I miss you


    I hear you whimper in your sleep
    I gently pet you and say, no bad dreams
    It will be alright, to my dog as dark as night.

    Fur as dark as the night.
    Join me on this flight.
    Paws of love that follow me.
    In my heart you'll forever be.
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    How I wish I could hold you near.
    Turn back time to make it so.
    Hug you close and never let go.
    11/12/06




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    That was beautiful Val!
    ~Angie, Sierra & Buddy
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    I suffer from multiple Shepherd syndrome



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    Very beautiful poem, Val. I have LES now.


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    dukedogsmom - that was beautiful :]

    It was a horrible tragedy, but I don't want them to stop horse racing because of a few accidents. It would be nice if they would stop racing them at two years old, though.

    Racing is dangerous, but so are other equestrian sports. Recently, Frodo Baggins and his rider Laine Ashker were hurt when Frodo didn't clear one of the fences. He was euthanized (I do believe) and Laine suffered many injuries. We have a horse at our barn who is off of work for 3 months because he got hurt jumping a crossrail. Things happen, I guess.
    in on the joke and i cant stop laughing

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    What a senseless waste of life .

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    Its all so senseless. You know what a filly is, a baby! A baby who hasn't had the chance for hers bones to grow normally before they started racing her. You look at the picture in the first post and tell me that horses legs don't look distorted. I would be in pain if I were a horse running on those legs.

    And for all intensive purposes, fighting dogs are pampered too. The ones that win a lot, just like horses, are fed well, trained well, the owners have medical equipment with them in case they need anything, some fighting owners have very nice facilities. And just like in horses, those who don't do well, are disposed of in one way or another.
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    On ESPN they quoted a stat - 700 horses are euthanized each year, around the world. One horse in May is put down and all of a sudden it's a crisis?

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    Dogs that are bred to fight are bred to die.

    To compare a horse owner to a pit dog owner is funny. No comparison. PD owners keep ther dogs alive so they can be killed in a fight-I have yet to hear of a horse owner running a horse just to see it die.

    Again, I don't see the purpose of racing horses, but I love to see horses run.

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    Speaking of dogs being abused---

    What is the pupose of Frisbee dogs? I ran into a "frisbee dog" once and was appalled at the condition of it's teeth. The AH that ran the dog was using frisbee golf discs that are made of hard, hard plastic-Why not throw dinner plates for the dog to chase?

    I have no problems with running a dog with a soft, nylon dog frisbee... After a few hundred training sessions making an animal chasing Pyrex, what does it have to look forward to?

    Cheap soft food and no bones?

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