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    "Seems like, lately, we can always count on you for a negative or
    argumentative statement. It's good to know you never disappoint anyone."

    I agree. That aside and beyond the 10th amendment, I think that a politicians personal views on issues (any) speaks to the character of the person. If they have the authority to make a decison on something is secondary to what their personal views are on the subject. For me, animal issues are very important and I'd cast my vote for someone with similar views. It speaks to the sensibility of a candidate IMO.
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    Does it matter what someone who is running for selectman in Dogpatch thinks about the war in Afghanistan? Honestly, no, because he/she can't do anything about it. Does it matter what a Representative thinks about the SALT or SALT II treaties? No, because they can't do anything about it. It isn't in their jurisdiction under the Constitution. That power lies with the Senate, not the House.

    The breakdown in the lines of what branch of government has jurisdiction over something is a fundemental flaw in our current system of government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kitten645
    "Seems like, lately, we can always count on you for a negative or
    argumentative statement. It's good to know you never disappoint anyone."

    I agree. That aside and beyond the 10th amendment, I think that a politicians personal views on issues (any) speaks to the character of the person. If they have the authority to make a decison on something is secondary to what their personal views are on the subject. For me, animal issues are very important and I'd cast my vote for someone with similar views. It speaks to the sensibility of a candidate IMO.
    Claudia

    It absolutely speaks to the character of the candidate & why anyone
    on a pet board can't see that is beyond me. It's not that complicated.
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    LH...I don't know if you have ever heard the expression "Bully Pulpit." It was first used by President Theodore Roosevelt. I don't see where in this thread anyone has suggested the president of the United States should get involved in establishing or enforcing animal protection laws.

    The president doesn't have constitutional authority regarding many of the issues that are begin debated....and have been debated...by presidential candidates since the country began. Taxes - for example -- are raised or lowered by congress but just today I read an quote from President Bush about the importance of lowered taxes - one of his platforms.

    But they influence, lead, set the tone. And people want to know what that tone is.

    You might want to read some of what has been written about Theodore Rossevelt and the concept of the Bully Pulpit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud
    It absolutely speaks to the character of the candidate & why anyone
    on a pet board can't see that is beyond me. It's not that complicated.
    Not to mention it could help the cause of animals in other countries if the leader of the free world is on board with animal rights issues.
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    Sara, I'm very well aware of the power of the bully pulpit, however, I've yet to see concrete proposals on an actual issue from any candidate beyond "National health care would be good", "We have to reduce our dependence on foreign energy", and other boilerplate BS.

    I've gone to the websites of several candidates (Good place to list specifics on issues) and nothing is there beyond the boilerplate.

    I'm far more concerned with what the candidates say they are going to do about issues directly under their control. So far it's been all style, no substance, and that concerns me, especially mere weeks away from Super Tuesday.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Then I think your argument belongs somewhere other than on this thread. If you want candidates who take positions on issues as you think they should -- write them, call them -- whatever.

    No one in this thread has suggested the president should or does have authority over animal welfare. Some people have suggested they would like to know the candidates' opinions about it.

    Apparently you do not think people should want to know the candidates' opinion on taxes, gay marriage, abortion, education, and a host of other issues that are being debated in this election (which is no different from any prior election.)

    I won't agree or disagree. But I think you should pick up the pieces of your shattered constitution and take your complaint to someone who can do something about it -- the candidates. Tell them to stop expressing opinions on things like "no child left behind", the economy etc.

    I am more concerned about people who might vote and think that your middle name denotes your religion and your willingness tobe a traitor.

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    Tomorrow is voting day in Illinois, although they've been encouraging people on the radio to take advantage of early voting because the ballots are not too short this time, plus everyone will need more time to get used to the new voting equipment. I wonder how it's going to turn out. I vote at the park district and it's usually buzzing with after-school program kids when I go. When the weather is nice I can walk there, but not tomorrow! Too much snow over the weekend!
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    Just goes to show you that it's important to have LOTS of money and know people in high places. I think that was the case of Huckabees. I see another Jeffrey Dahlmer in their family.

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