They came and took him! What do I do now? *UPDATE PAGE 5!*

[sumbirdy]

Yes, they are itchy to him.

He had marks on him last week but they were not nearly as bad. We were shocked at how bad they were this time.

All she could say about it was that she didn't know what they were. What shocked me the most was she said they might me ants. How would you not know that ants were crawling all over your baby soon enough to get them off before they bit him?

Would tomorrow still be soon enough to take him to the ER? Actually I don't know if we would be able to go until Monday due to the need for gas money...
What if we got the nurse to come out again and look at them and possibly document them or something? Would that help?

[Catty1]

Phone the nurse and ask.

I am wondering if they are shingles? Caused by stress....but Nathan is WAAY too young to have those.

Hopefully the nurse would come out, and take photos. Would the CHS worker come out on a Sunday?

I know you took pics....try to use a macro setting and get as much of a close-up as you can.

HUGS!

[sumbirdy]

Phone the nurse and ask.

I am wondering if they are shingles? Caused by stress....but Nathan is WAAY too young to have those.

Hopefully the nurse would come out, and take photos. Would the CHS worker come out on a Sunday?

I know you took pics....try to use a macro setting and get as much of a close-up as you can.

HUGS!

Mom was thinking the exact same thing-shingles. When he comes over here they clear up withing a day or two and already the ones he has now are better. I can see why it would be stressful to live over there. While we were there today, Stephanie was screaming (and I mean screaming) at Charles' dog, Truck, and telling Charles she was going to beat his d*** dog. Mom went in their house and said that poor dog was hunkered down in a corner and when mom tried to get closer to him he snapped at her. Apparantly they got him from her friends because their kids beat him and all I could think was "Well, he didn't go into a better home." Every animal they get they end up getting rid of because "They got too big" or "They pooped in the floor" or "I just couldn't put up with them any more." I feel just as sorry for their animals as I do for Nathan when he has to be over there.

And we took up close pictures of them. (Although they are not great because Nathan wouldn't sit still) But you can really see them there. I would post them but they are on the other computer. I might see if I could do it tomorrow during Nathan's nap.

[Karen]

He really needs to get the bumps diagnosed and treated. Has everyone (all the adults and you) in your family already had chicken pox, and measles vaccinations, and are you sure they aren't those? Poor itchy boy, but I wouldn't treat them without a diagnosis first, to be sure. Is there any fever?

[Craftlady]

When adults get shingles they are very painful. Fever is also an issue you get pretty sick. I know in children they are chicken poxs. I've never heard them come out for a day or two then disappearing. Chicken poxs come out and mulitple and get scabby.

Poor dog.

[Grace]

I doubt very much it is shingles. That only shows up after Chicken Pox - has he had that? And usually many years after Chicken Pox - when you are old, not young.

[Pawsitive Thinking]

I doubt very much it is shingles. That only shows up after Chicken Pox - has he had that? And usually many years after Chicken Pox - when you are old, not young.

Not necessarily - Katie has managed to pack both into her 17 years

How are things progressing Summer? Has that awful Stephanie disappeared yet?? (we can but hope)

[sumbirdy]

He really needs to get the bumps diagnosed and treated. Has everyone (all the adults and you) in your family already had chicken pox, and measles vaccinations, and are you sure they aren't those? Poor itchy boy, but I wouldn't treat them without a diagnosis first, to be sure. Is there any fever?

We have all had the shots-and so has he. Chicken pox and measles are usually spread all over the body but his are generally on his back.
I've been looking up different kinds of bites and came across bed bugs. Could it be that? I asked mom if she thought it could be and she said it was possible because they don't put any sheets on Nathan's bed. And it makes sense then that they would be on his back and around his neck because he sleeps on his back.

I wish we could do something tomorrow and I'm beating myself up for not thinking about taking him to the ER as soon as we left their house.

mrspunkysmom-we have tried to ask DHS to go look at him the first time they told us he had these on him but the lady was very rude and told us that Stephanie had told them that she had taken Nathan to the doctor for it (and Charles told us she hadn't)

[Karen]

How could she not put sheets on Nathan's bed? That's just icky. Yuck. Poor Nathan, I hope he gets a clear diagnosis, and a good treatment plan. And if it IS bedbugs, that's her fault, and she needs to get rid of them NOW, even if it means replacing Nathan's mattress over there. Poor, poor itchy boy!

A baby's skin is so sensitive, hopefully whoever treats this will document everything. I still cannot fathom not sheets on a baby's bed!!!! So if a diaper leaks it'll just soak into the mattress?

[sumbirdy]

How could she not put sheets on Nathan's bed? That's just icky. Yuck. Poor Nathan, I hope he gets a clear diagnosis, and a good treatment plan. And if it IS bedbugs, that's her fault, and she needs to get rid of them NOW, even if it means replacing Nathan's mattress over there. Poor, poor itchy boy!

A baby's skin is so sensitive, hopefully whoever treats this will document everything. I still cannot fathom not sheets on a baby's bed!!!! So if a diaper leaks it'll just soak into the mattress?

My thoughts exactly.

I don't think it's chicken pox because, like I said, they're mainly on his back. Plus, he had stuff that looked like this last week (though not nearly as bad) and when we took him back they had all cleared up. And now that they had him again they're back and since we've had him they have cleared up a little. I didn't think chicken pox came and went like that.

Stephanie told mom that Nathan was going to like it more over there because they are going to take him to fun places and buy him stuff he will like more than what's over here. Sounds to me like she's just trying to buy him off. Yes, we intend on taking him to fun places and buying him fun toys (we want him to have fun) but we're also going to show him that we love him to the very best of our ability and I think that in the end that's what he's going to see.

[sumbirdy]

Just confirmed-we can't do anything until Monday. But Monday we will. And the next time we go get him I'm sure they will be there again so as soon as we pick him up I'll tell mom and dad we should take him immediately to the ER.

I just don't see how she can talk about it so casually and say it could be from ants and then continue to set him in the grass. You would think that if a mother thought something was hurting her child and she had a way to stop it she would. And these bumps are making him miserable. He's never been itchy in his life until he went over there and started getting these. Poor baby. If I could take it all away, I would.

[mrspunkysmom]

Jumping in here.

Do try to get a close-up of the bites. Don't forget that journal. Write down everything she said about those bites.

I can tell you that fire ants leave a brownish scar, but before that there is a small pustule that forms in the center of the bite. And that the bite hurts like hell. The bites can become infected. I don't know if these are fire ants, but sugar ants usually aren't vindictive. Fire ants are.

I find it difficult to believe that child services won't send someone out to see the child with those bites.

And child services is allowed to make surprise visits to her.