Woah now just a dam* minute! I never once stated my hatred of the military or the war in this thread (or my entire existence on this forum as far as i can remember.) Do NOT say i said things that i didn't.

My point in posting this thread is just how sick some individuals can be. How horrible it was what these humans did, these humans who are SUPPOSED to be making PEACE keeping efforts.

This thread had NOTHING to do with my dislike of this war. IF i had wanted to discuss my dislike of the war i would have STARTED or dug up a thread with a title something to the effect of "This War Blows Chunks Of Beer Vomit"

And you don't know me... I have friends and family in the military. I have never once said anything disrespectful to them about their choices. I have even gone to parades for the soldiers. I have shaken their hands, when i was younger I've saluted them. Do NOT put your interpretation of my *actions* down as if they were my own words!

Quote Originally Posted by wombat2u2004
A Lady Zana......how could I ingnore this post.
Ingrate = Ungrateful; an ungrateful person. (According to the Westminster dictionary). You think by calling people ingrates is offensive ???? Well, it seems then that the truth may hurt some. But why would someone be offended by being called ungrateful ?????
And isn't that just what Crow has indicated here ?????? She has posted her distaste for war and the military....ALL OF IT !!!!!!! How can she not see what the military has done for her in the past ???? And probably in the future ???? Is that not ungrateful ????? Even if it is her opinion ?????? And yours ????
Honey (please excuse the patronising, but I guess it is my right to say whatever I want to), I'm a Vietnam veteran, and I'll tell you exactly what offensive means.....it means being spat at, ridiculed, called a baby killer, and generally shunned by a certain section of society. But I'm not really that offended by what I experienced, simply because I CHOSE to do what I did, just like Lady's Human here did, professional soldiers, doing what WE believe is the right thing for our country. I really don't care what you believe is the right thing, as much as you don't care what I do. But I hold my peace, I don't go bashing anti war activists, in fact in all the time I have been on PT, I have probably never even mentioned war (except for on occasion with Lady's Human when we PM each other about our experiences).

But, you know, I don't really care what Crow said....true....I've been there, and heard that, it just goes in one ear and out of the other for all that it matters to me. But what I do find I'm annoyed about is being told that my post is offensive !!!!! If one takes issue with being called ungrateful because of what they have said about those who ultimately are responsible for her rights and protection, then she deserves to feel offended about that.
And....for the record.....you mention US patriots, the French and English revolutions ????? Ummmmmmmmm.......they ALL actually formed militias, which is certainly akin to an army at the time.....if they never did that, they would have had buckleys chance of winning. So I stand by my statement, that soldiers have given people the right of free speech, and the right to burn the flag, and they try VERY hard to maintain those rights for you.....do not assume that they are just magically available to you....people have fought and died for that privilege you have.

""However, know it is not ONLY military who defends our rights. The peacemakers do as well.""

Really ???? And how long do you think that would be the case without a military ?????

Wom