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    Unfortunately after many many many stories like this I don't like any soldiers at all. I hate having to watch on the news when they have welcome back parties for soldiers. Since there is no draft, I naturally assume people who willing take part in the army can be classed together. I know not everybody is the same, but its going to take a lot to get me to trust anybody who supports soldiers or was one for this war.
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    As a retired soldier, thank you for your support.
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    Scum?

    The military found out about the crime, tried the perps, convicted and sentenced them.

    Scum?

    We have helped in disasters globally.

    Scum?

    We did the majority of the work in the immediate post Katrina effort.

    Scum?


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    There are bad apples in EVERY profession on the face of the earth. Doctors, Lawyers, musicians, artists, police, firemen, ad infinitum.

    The US military is a cross section of society. As such the occasional bad apple gets through the screening, training and eval.

    Unlike most militaries on the face of the earth, the US military prosecutes our bad apples and we get rid of them.

    DO NOT! cast aspersions on the entire military because of the actions of one or two idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    There are bad apples in EVERY profession on the face of the earth. Doctors, Lawyers, musicians, artists, police, firemen, ad infinitum.

    The US military is a cross section of society. As such the occasional bad apple gets through the screening, training and eval.

    Unlike most militaries on the face of the earth, the US military prosecutes our bad apples and we get rid of them.

    DO NOT! cast aspersions on the entire military because of the actions of one or two idiots.
    Thank you!

    IRescue, I am by no means supportive of the war in Iraq, or any recent conflict which America has entered, but I find your comments offensive. Not every person who joins the army goes into it thinking "yeehaw, I am gonna shoot me some Ay-rab ass" and to even assume that is close minded.

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    Two of my best friends in the entire world are in the military. One is currently active in Iraq.

    Both my sister-in-law and her husband are in the coast guard.

    My father-in-law is a retired Green Beret.

    None of them are "low-life scum" as you seem to believe.

    NONE of them would EVER do the things the few idiots that this article talks about did.

    Never ever make assumptions based off of one or two idiots.

    I'm not going to lie..... what you said actually offends me and, in a way, hurt me that you would think such wonderful people such as my friends and family would be classified as "low-life scum" with idiots such as the guys in the article.

    But, I'm sorry our opinions differ.

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    I will always have trouble trusting this category of people. At least I admit its wrong to make blanket assumptions. Everybody has different experiences in life that shape their attitudes towards people and even inanimate objects. You've got good experiences with soldiers and have good thoughts about the American way of "defending" its people from real or imagined threats- great. I've had more bad experiences than good with these people and their practices- great also. This means we are a balanced social group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human

    Scum?
    We have helped in disasters globally.
    We did the majority of the work in the immediate post Katrina effort.
    Scum?
    WE DEFEND YOU!


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    Quote Originally Posted by IRescue452
    Unfortunately after many many many stories like this I don't like any soldiers at all. I hate having to watch on the news when they have welcome back parties for soldiers. Since there is no draft, I naturally assume people who willing take part in the army can be classed together. I know not everybody is the same, but its going to take a lot to get me to trust anybody who supports soldiers or was one for this war.
    I just saw this thread, and as a Former Soldier, I am very Hurt by this statement!! Why can you not trust us??? so a few do wrong things, so do normal everyday Citizens, so does this mean you dont tust anyone?? Rediculous satement!!

    I would also like to add: my husband was a soldier, my father, my BIL, my cousins, my uncles, grandfathers, great grandfaters ect...I guess you dont like any of us!
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    of course this thread has been edited! There is no basis behind statements such as those that were made against our Men and Women in uniform and the original posters must certainly know that or they wouldn't have bothered editing/deleting.
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    I may not agree with the reasons our president sends our soldiers to war, but I damn well support each and every single one of them out there. I'm sure they are ecstatic to be away from their families, to be away from the comforts of life here. I'm sure it is a lovely picnic in the sun and sand! (sarcasm off)

    They have to experience things that will stay with them the rest of their lives. They come home to people like the poster calling them scum, and have to live with people in their own country treating them like they ARE scum. Many in poverty or wounded and can't get jobs or psychological help! Many end up on the streets, mentally and physically wounded for the rest of their lives, and to have the audacity to call them scum....it's disgusting.

    To those who have come before, those serving now, and those to come after, thank you for putting your lives on the line, whether you want to be where you are sent or not. You have my most sincere gratitude.

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    Wow. I just got through reading this entire thread. One of the things I never debate are sex, politics and religion. Everyone has their opinions. HOWEVER, stereotyping one bad apple isn't right. This guy is getting exactly what he deserves.

    I have the UTMOST respect for our men and women in uniform. I believe they are brave and are doing a very difficult job that I wouldn't want to do. To all the people here on this thread who have served their country, I salute you!

    The one question that came to mind is, will this guy have to register as a sex offender if he ever gets out (which is doubtful)?

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    I never said I flat out hate anybody who was a soldier. I said I have a hard time relating to and trusting certain people. Everybody is different and I'm perfectly willing to hear out each and every person before making a final judgement on anybody.

    BTW, who's opinion is it that soldiers are defending me? So far as I'm concerned I had many of my rights as a U.S. citizen and a human being denied recently, so soldiers are defending a country that descriminates against who gets certain rights. It was only recently that a group won a battle to allow people of my religion to have their religious symbols engraved on tombstones of their dead soldiers. Seems we're having to defend ourselves as soldiers defend the country who denied those symbols to begin with. What an ironic twist of fate.
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    No, Irescue, you just called all of us scum. Big difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IRescue452
    I never said I flat out hate anybody who was a soldier. I said I have a hard time relating to and trusting certain people. .
    Unfortunately after many many many stories like this I don't like any soldiers at all.
    Hmmm.....sounds like You DONT LIKE ANY SOLDIERS AT ALL!!!!! Pretty much means hate in my book!
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