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    S.O. had a friend like Dan once. S.O.'s life improved leaps and bounds when he ditched the "friend." (True, i probably never would have talked to S.O. if it hadn't been for the friend and the guy was tons of troublesome fun to be around, but that's as far as that went.) Joe's best bet is to STOP *thinking* of Dan as a friend and just an acquaintance. Second step is to realize that it's no major loss to shut Dan out of his life. I hate being so blunt and cold in my opinion, but that's just how i see it.

    Four months is NOT a long time for "convincing" someone to notice you. Play your cards right, have patience, and drop little hints.

    Help each other heal. Be his friend first and foremost. If and when the time comes that it feels right get over your worries and pre-conceived notions and tell him that you'd like to try dating him as more that a friend. If you think it would help you could tell him that you two can take things at his pace.

    Aside from the dating thing... (Back to friend mode) When you were there talking and you thought you felt that he really needed a hug you could have asked him if he'd like one. He probably knows you know by now that he doesn't like to be touched but I'm sure it would have meant something to him to know you were thinking of his happiness and were considerate enough to put the ball in his court. (Again, part of the healing process. Some people would take this as feeding a male's controlling ego... but no... this is entirely about helping the abused. Every little block of trust building helps.)

    You need to keep your eyes open for those little opportunities. ( I guess even though i was shy, meek, abused, unpopular, etc. i was always an opportunist and was good at helping others... when i finally got the chance.) Remember... It is easier to see outside of the raincloud from within; while it is hard for one to look into the storm cloud from outside.* (that speaks of seeing hope as well as understanding.)

    * Wow, i just went to paste that into sayings I've come up with and found this "We're not psycho, we're just damaged goods. We need to be loved too. You get us at a discounted price; just we may need a few applications of super glue and duct tape." Just a bit of insight into my life. It was from a conversation i had with someone a while back. It made me smile. There's hope for you and Joe yet. :-) Eventually your pieces will get glued back together.
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    Let nature guide your actions and you will never have to worry if you did the right thing. ~ crow_noir

    The pet world excels where the human world is lacking; sterilization and adoption. ~ crow_noir

    Please, if your dog is arthritic look into getting it Elk Velvet Antler. Look up my posts on it, PM me, or look it up on a search engine; but please if you love your dog and want it to live many more years consider this option. I've seen so many posts on here about dogs needlessly suffering. I can't make a new post about EVA every time so this plea is going here. EVA also helps with other ailments such as anemia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crow_noir
    S.O. had a friend like Dan once. S.O.'s life improved leaps and bounds when he ditched the "friend." (True, i probably never would have talked to S.O. if it hadn't been for the friend and the guy was tons of troublesome fun to be around, but that's as far as that went.) Joe's best bet is to STOP *thinking* of Dan as a friend and just an acquaintance. Second step is to realize that it's no major loss to shut Dan out of his life. I hate being so blunt and cold in my opinion, but that's just how i see it.
    most of the group is getting close to ditching Dan.. Eva finally took the correct step & told Dan to back off of her... I'm hoping that'll tone Dan down, & he'll realize that what hes doing is wrong & hes gonna loose us all, it he keeps it up. I swear if he starts looking at me like a piece of meat, I'll... I'll... I'll end it fast! I spoke to Renos, as he was MAD about how all of us were killing each other in the game (Dan killed Joe in the game, it didn't go well at all.. I saw right through Joe, he was hurt BAD... You cannot hide Anxiety from me, I pick it up right away)... I refused to tell Renos any details, but to just restart that part of the game & unkill Joe.


    Quote Originally Posted by crow_noir
    Four months is NOT a long time for "convincing" someone to notice you. Play your cards right, have patience, and drop little hints.
    I don't know how to drop hints... I fail bad at this dating stuff... My very first date was when I was 16.. I stayed with him for 7yrs & 3 months (BAD guy).. I've tried dating since, but I keep finding poopy guys.. the last guy wasn't BAD.. he was just wrong for me, but a sweet guy. Joe is my first crush & I'm nearly 25yrs old sad I know... I have a few friends helping me out, giving me tips, but I'm the biggest chicken poo you'll ever have met... Kinda why I'm excited about finally going on anxiety meds, so I wont be as much of a chicken poo... I want a normal life darnit!!


    Quote Originally Posted by crow_noir
    Help each other heal. Be his friend first and foremost. If and when the time comes that it feels right get over your worries and pre-conceived notions and tell him that you'd like to try dating him as more that a friend. If you think it would help you could tell him that you two can take things at his pace.
    I know since I have met Joe & started talking to him about my past, that I have felt a lot better about myself & my Anxiety has been easier to control... I hope Joe feels better when he talks to me about his issues. I'm sure he does cause he keeps getting me involved in them & he seems like a different person when its just us hanging out & talking about the past.


    Quote Originally Posted by crow_noir
    Aside from the dating thing... (Back to friend mode) When you were there talking and you thought you felt that he really needed a hug you could have asked him if he'd like one. He probably knows you know by now that he doesn't like to be touched but I'm sure it would have meant something to him to know you were thinking of his happiness and were considerate enough to put the ball in his court. (Again, part of the healing process. Some people would take this as feeding a male's controlling ego... but no... this is entirely about helping the abused. Every little block of trust building helps.)
    I was driving my car, so giving him a hug prob. would have killed us both lol
    Joe has no issues with being touched.. I'm the one with those issues.. He knows it too.. it was about a month ago I got 1/2 a hug from Joe (totally forgot about that.. bad me!! lol).. I lent him my hacking cards for the DS. I told him he can keep them until I need them back... He was gonna buy his own, but I told him not to.. I said I only need the card when I go to PEI & I'm not going for a year + so there is no rush.. the cards would just collect dust other wise... He was so happy he hopped over & gave me 1/2 a hug, as he knows I don't like being touched (what he didn't know is that i would have acepted a big hug from him anyday LOL)...


    Quote Originally Posted by crow_noir
    You need to keep your eyes open for those little opportunities. ( I guess even though i was shy, meek, abused, unpopular, etc. i was always an opportunist and was good at helping others... when i finally got the chance.) Remember... It is easier to see outside of the raincloud from within; while it is hard for one to look into the storm cloud from outside.* (that speaks of seeing hope as well as understanding.)
    I think I struck a good nerve of his this morning.

    I couldn't get a hold of him yesterday, so i assumed 1 of 2 things.. 1 he wasn't getting my text messages again (when hes underground my text messages get lost.)... or he was still really down & wanted to be left alone...

    I was talking to him on MSN (like I do every morning when at work) & he forgot to turn his phone back on... he was happy that I thought about him though... So I "told" him I'm kidnapping him tonight, as its play all night at the Playdium for 22.00. He was all excited, then said but I have to get the duffel bag From Ron & Karen's.. I said, ya & I live there remember! So I'll put it in my car when I get there after work, then I'll pick you up at work & off we go!

    What he doesn't know is that I'm taking him out for dinner too. I know he LOVES A&W, so we're gonna hit the Mall for A&W, then gonna go to the Playdium! Last time the 2 of us went to the Playdium, we didn't want to leave, as we couldn't peel ourselves from the games!! Air Hockey was the best! We spent most of our time there & thats where I know we'll both run to first. We don't play nice, we play as rough as we can & hit the puck as hard as we can... We can get a lot of air on those little pucks LOL I always get hit by the puck too.. Joe kept hitting my poor *you know*... the last time it was a speeding puck & I nearly dropped... I was laughing in pain, cause it was too funny.. I thought Joe was gonna die laughing, as he nearly fell hehehe

    Before he left for work, he was very excited about going to the playdium


    Quote Originally Posted by crow_noir
    * Wow, i just went to paste that into sayings I've come up with and found this "We're not psycho, we're just damaged goods. We need to be loved too. You get us at a discounted price; just we may need a few applications of super glue and duct tape." Just a bit of insight into my life. It was from a conversation i had with someone a while back. It made me smile. There's hope for you and Joe yet. :-) Eventually your pieces will get glued back together.
    I really liked that.. thank you

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    Well it sounds like you have your eggs all in the basket so to speak.

    Sorry i got a few details mixed up. *blush*

    As for this being your first crush... You'll figure things out in time and develop your own style of handling situations. So long as you truly know yourself and don't hide your feelings from yourself you'll do fine. Remember to always be truthful with yourself.

    Yay! I hope you and Joe have a great time tonight! (Whooo dinner! Food is they key to any man's heart right? )
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    Let nature guide your actions and you will never have to worry if you did the right thing. ~ crow_noir

    The pet world excels where the human world is lacking; sterilization and adoption. ~ crow_noir

    Please, if your dog is arthritic look into getting it Elk Velvet Antler. Look up my posts on it, PM me, or look it up on a search engine; but please if you love your dog and want it to live many more years consider this option. I've seen so many posts on here about dogs needlessly suffering. I can't make a new post about EVA every time so this plea is going here. EVA also helps with other ailments such as anemia.

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    I'm excited to hear as your night went... You've got a plan worked out, and I think it's a great idea!

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    I ended up crying & pouting most the night.... I felt like someone stomped on my chest

    As I was just getting onto the 427 (the HWY that gets me to the airport to pick up Joe) I got a text message from Joe (the message arrive to me late, not his fault), saying that Gio was going to pick him up after work & they were going to go out drinking.

    Needless to say I wasn't overly happy.. I messaged Joe back once I arrived back to the place I'm staying at. I said so your ditching me! Joe replied, Gio twisted my hand, blah blah blah(random Joe talk).... I said, SO you ditched me to see Gio Then I got a reply from Gio saying, it was his fault that Joe was with him... I said thats fine, but if Joe didn't want to go to the Playdium with me, he should have said so when I invited him! Gio replied that he had no idea Joe & I had plans.

    See what I think happened is that Joe forgot we made plans to go out, as him ditching a friend, is not Joe at all. Then he was totally embarrassed & had Gio talk to me instead, as Joe never has someone talk for him either.

    I'm not MAD at Joe, I'm just hurt. I know he had a rough week, Fri was his last shift & then he was on holidays for 2 weeks, so his mind was busy as hell (I've done it too)... I'm just hoping he admits to forgetting & says sorry to my face.

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    I'm sorry to hear that. Joe seems like a reasonable person, and I think he'll apologize to you.

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    *hugs*
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    Let nature guide your actions and you will never have to worry if you did the right thing. ~ crow_noir

    The pet world excels where the human world is lacking; sterilization and adoption. ~ crow_noir

    Please, if your dog is arthritic look into getting it Elk Velvet Antler. Look up my posts on it, PM me, or look it up on a search engine; but please if you love your dog and want it to live many more years consider this option. I've seen so many posts on here about dogs needlessly suffering. I can't make a new post about EVA every time so this plea is going here. EVA also helps with other ailments such as anemia.

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