Bon bit me (not feeling so blue any more!)

[finn's mom]

oh my anna. that looks terrible. you did what most people would have done in that situation. i hope you get to feeling better and less nervous soon.

[wolf_Q]

Anna I'm so sorry that this happened to you. That looks REALLY painful, ouch! I've been bitten a few times at work but nothing like that. Please get feeling better soon. And know that we still love Bon, he's a sweet boy, any dog could bite somebody in the middle of a dog fight. Nebo is food aggressive with dogs, I know he would never bite a human over food, but it could easily happen if I was trying to break something up.

[Logan]

Gosh, I wish I had your email address, right now, but I don't (hate those darn computer crashes). Pam, thankfully, alerted me to the fact that you are hurting. I dare not even open the pictures, Anna. I've seen enough.

I simply don't know what to say or what to think, but I trust you and Mark to control your situation as best you can. I have had a similar situation in my home with Mack, but we think we have it under control now. But, like you, we have to feed Honey and Mack, seperately. He had too much aggression towards her. Thank goodness, he has not shown it towards us.

I'm sending you much love and many prayer for healing. I'm going to be away for a week, so I can't check on you, but please know that I am thinking of you all.

Logan

[Oggyflute]

Hope you get better soon Anna. Thinking of you mate. Give your pups a hug, it always makes me feel better.

[K9karen]

Oh, Anna, my dear friend! Are you trying to outdo me? Now, now.

This is the 1st I've mentioned this, but Mz Klo gave me a nice impresion on my bad wrist last month. i won't go into details, except to say, it was totally MY fault. as I grabbed her collar (anger on my part) after she disobeyed me when I was doing something I she didn't like. Lesson learned.

Of course it was an accident. Bon reacted on instinct. You're right, dog are dogs. They don't have hands to tell us to "get away" or slap us silly. You reacted instinctively also. It's one of those things.

I feel your pain (do I ever)..(Percocet works better than Vicodin fyi). Drink lots of H20 with Augmentin (I've had it 2x in 2 months and had a *ahem* female* reaction) Thankfully you don't need rabies shots (I'm one up on you )).

I love you to pieces (you know that) and hope and pray you feel better fast. A million HUGS too

[gemini9961]

Anna I am so sorry to hear about this. I hope you start to feel better soon and heal quickly.

[Cincy'sMom]

Wow!! I'm so sorry for you, Huney and Bon both. How scary!!

My mom has had issues with her dogs fighting over food, even though they all eat kibble. Pippi's attacked Dazzi, Dazzi and Taggert, and I think even Jack has got caght up in one or two skirmishes...all around/over food. They now all eat in their kennels.

With some packs of dogs it is just neccesary to feed them separately. I think with Bon's size and potential for future food agression, I would not let him eat with the girls anymore. It may never ever happen again, but because Bon is so powerful, it may just be the safest thing for everyone.

Lots of prayers healing vibes coming your way. Please let us know if we can do anything!!

[AdoreMyDogs]

Oh dear, Anna. That wound looks just horribly painful I'm so sorry you had to go threw such a heart-breaking and painful injury. It was an accident on Bon's part, as every said, he's a dog, and dogs just aren't human even though they share so many human-like emotions. I truly believe it was just an accident and that Bon isn't a dangerous animal. I also think the dogs should be seperated from now on when they are eating, but I am sure you're going to do that anyway.

I hope you get to feeling better and I hope that Huney didn't get injured also (((((hugs))))) to ya, girl. Chime in when you're feeling better, please.

[shais_mom]

Oh My!
I'm so sorry Anna- I can't imagine how badly your leg hurts- probably as much as your heart.
We know that Bon is a big baby. Just a big baby with a lot of teeth and a big mouth. I don't think its entirely fair to compare him with Angus b/c that's like comparing 2 kids, but its not my leg either.
I agree with the other's I don't think RAW or KIBBLE had anything to do with it. If dogs are going to have issues it doesn't matter what they are eating.
I agree also that Huney was probably trying to protect her momma.
I also think another round of obediance might not hurt. (once your leg heals up of course) And heck - I think all of our dogs would benefit!!
I also think an email to Nancy the Pet Psychic wouldn't hurt in the meantime either. I know it sounds out there but to get inside that big bonehead it'd be worth it.
Lots of LOVE and HUGS going to all of you!
Call me if you need anything!

[zippy-kat]

{{healing hugs}} to you miz anna. we sure send tons of get well thoughts and purrs to you and the furries.

[crow_noir]

Though i don't agree with the opinion of rehoming in this situation I don't feel that sasvermont should have been attacked for their opinion, nor for the timing of the suggestion.

That bite is impressive, for sure. Gosh, I know that bite was painful. I have heard of dogs doing just what yours did, many, many times.... but never got to see the results. It is shocking.

Bon might be happier in a home by himself.

That is some bite. Much more serious than I would want to happen to me again or to have happen to a neighbor's child or one of my other pets. I know you don't want to consider this, but surely re-homing him has come to your thoughts? Yes?

I hope your wound heals quickly and smoothly.

I know you will do the right thing with your Bon Bon boy.....and whatever works for you, works for us, I am sure.

Get well soon.

[crow_noir]

My very first thought was that it would be good to keep Bon separated from now on until all other dogs are done eating.

I also think that hand feeding him for a while would be a good idea. (Though i don't know how that would work with the raw ;-/p )

I do think that there is more of a likeliness of food aggression with the raw because it is much better tasting and therefore more valued. A slight increase. Not much. Also could it be that Bon might not be getting enough and is a bit hungry and felt that he had to lash out? (Not at you but going after another's meal.) (I'm not trying to imply anything, I'm just trying to explore all possibilities.)

Hope your leg feels better soon!

First let me say he did NOT attack me, I just got in the middle of a fight.

As most of you know I've been feeding raw for the last 10 months.
In the very beginning I had a small problem with Bon wanting to take Huney's food, but since then things were going well...that is until yesterday.

I guess you could say it was all my fault. I should have left well enough alone.

Huney didn't take her food when I gave it to her so I went ahead and gave Roxey her food, then gave Bon his. A little bit later Huney came up on the porch so I offered her food to her again and this time she took it. Bon seen us and left his food and came running up to us.

From there it's all kind of a blur, it happened so fast but here's what I remember...

One of them growled. I have no idea who started it, but they started fighting. Of course I know I shouldn't have gotten in between them but instead pulled Bon's legs out from under him, but at that moment all I could think of was to get him off her. I grabbed his collar and tried to pull him off her. Next thing going through my head is "I think he bit me."
I finally got him off her and into a corner and had him in a head lock trying to calm him down. For some reason Huney came over to us and got right under his legs This I don't understand at all.
I finally got her away from us and walked him out to the kennel and locked him up and brought Huney in the house.
At this time I realize blood is pouring down my leg and I'm trying to figure out what to do. I looked down and not only do I have punctures but there was fatty tissue hanging out of one of them
I get the phone, get into the tub and call Mark and he came home and took me to the hospital.

Do you know how embarrassing it is to tell people that your dog bit you? It made me just want to cry. I know this is bad but I just kept thinking "Angus never bit me."

The doctor was shocked when she seen my leg and said it was impressive. I'm definitely not impressed with it

I did have to get a tetanus shot, intravenous antibiotics and a total of 6 stitches. She said she really didn't like to put stitches in bites but the punctures were just too big not put a few in. I wasn't at the hospital long, around 3 hours or so and now I'm off work till Tuesday.
She sent me home with a prescription for Augmentin and Vicodin for pain (not that it really helps much.) I go to have the stitches out in 10 days. Until then I'm to rest and keep my leg elevated.

The dogs are getting along just fine now, as if nothing ever happened. I fed the girls outside as usual and fed Bon in his crate.

Now I feel like I'm nervous about everything and feel like just going back to dry dog food, but who knows...will they fight over that too

I told my mom and now she's worried about me because Bon is so big. She's afraid something will happen to me. I tried to calm her by telling her that his aggression wasn't directed towards me but it didn't seem to make her feel any better.
I don't want to tell any fiends or family for the fear that they will not want to come over any more and think I have a "viscous" dog although I did tell the girl who dog sat for me and she stopped by last night to see me and the dogs, it didn't seem to phase her at all. She said she isn't afraid to watch them any more now than before...that made me feel good

My leg looks absolutely terrible. I'm going to attach some pictures, so if your grossed out by things like this don't look
All the pictures were taken after I got to the hospital.
1)Before anything was done to it.
2)After the stitches
3)Gross pic but it shows the difference in size of my legs
4)My leg this morning...yuck, it looks like a whale

I wanted to tell this story to let everyone know that dogs are still dogs. Just try to not make the same mistake I did. Think before you step between two dogs, even if they are your own.

[ChrisH]

I have to say I was very surprised by the way some people jumped on sas, a well respected and long term member of Pet Talk. Everything she wrote was in concern for Anna, and definitely not written in a judgmental way. She was just giving her opinion in a loving way. I think her last post made that clear.

I want to be perfectly clear that my concern is about Anna's welfare. Of course she loves her dog. I love my pets. Some dogs will bite like that, under many different circumstances. I, personally, would not want to have a dog around my home that could do that kind of damage to a human or to another pet. It's like owning a loaded gun. Some people can handle that. I could not. My opinion - doesn't make me right or wrong. She may find that Bon will never bite again. I hope that is true for her. I trust that is true for her. I support her in her decision.
That's it. You can read in to this what you like.
Get well soon Anna.

[Lori Jordan]

Oh, Anna, my dear friend! Are you trying to outdo me? Now, now.

This is the 1st I've mentioned this, but Mz Klo gave me a nice impresion on my bad wrist last month. i won't go into details, except to say, it was totally MY fault. as I grabbed her collar (anger on my part) after she disobeyed me when I was doing something I she didn't like. Lesson learned.

Of course it was an accident. Bon reacted on instinct. You're right, dog are dogs. They don't have hands to tell us to "get away" or slap us silly. You reacted instinctively also. It's one of those things.

I feel your pain (do I ever)..(Percocet works better than Vicodin fyi). Drink lots of H20 with Augmentin (I've had it 2x in 2 months and had a *ahem* female* reaction) Thankfully you don't need rabies shots (I'm one up on you )).

I love you to pieces (you know that) and hope and pray you feel better fast. A million HUGS too

I have done the same thing.

We now have Anna,Lacy is very jealous of her,Lacy got mad and took a bone away from her.Which started a huge fight,Of course i jumped in,Anna had major surgery and i was worried she would pull something in her stomach.

I grabbed Lacy out from under her(Lacy fights on her back for some reason she always ends up underneath the other dog.

She growled at me and went to nip,I got my hand out of there in time.

But it is the true,The point you made(It happens)

[Alysser]

I have to say I was very surprised by the way some people jumped on sas, a well respected and long term member of Pet Talk. Everything she wrote was in concern for Anna, and definitely not written in a judgmental way. She was just giving her opinion in a loving way. I think her last post made that clear.

I didn't veiw it as attacking at all. No one was rude to her in their post following her opinion, so I don't see how it's "attacking". They were just telling Sasvermont that it's not an option. I also agree that Sasvermont's post was not rude at all, or judgemental. She was very kind in the way she approached it and that's all that matters.