Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31
Sigh.... Will we ever learn.... The more power people give government over us, the more enslaved we become. How is it the governments place to tell people how they should raise their children?

Of course, parents should never abuse their child, but I was raised by parents who belived in "spare the rod, spoil the child." I was physically disciplined when I made mistakes and I rarely made the same one twice. I never really feared my parents because of it and today I am VERY grateful to them for raising me that way. It taught me to be responsible for my own actions and if I messed up, there was a price to pay... Just like the real world.

There are no "time outs" in the real world.

Action=Consequence.... For good or bad.
I agree. My mom raised me with spankings, sometimes including occasional spanking with paint stirrers and wooden spoons, on the hiney only, and the occasional washing my mouth out with soap for mouthing off (btw coast tasts awful!). I never had any marks on me, the soap never made me sick, the pain was temporary but the lessons were permenant, when mom says no, mom MEANS no!

I do not call that child abuse, and I was the one being spanked at the time, but I learned that when someone in authority says something you'd darn well better listen! Mom always let me know she loved me and that she spanked me because I needed to learn what she was trying to teach me for my own good and safety. And many of our relatives and mom's friends commented on how well behaved I was and how well I listened to her in comparison to their own children who they didn't spank.

I wouldn't trade how I was raised for a million years for 'time-outs'. I often now thank my mom for raising me the way she did! And we have been really close even when I was little.

And Puckstop- your comment about the government reminds me of something I once heard....."a government big & powerful enough to give you everything you want, is big & powerful enough to take away everything you have".