Prince Charles suggests banning McDonalds

[Miss Z]

Wow...and I thought this thread was going to be very interesting to read, what a disappointment.

Puckstop31, your opinion began with rude and unjustified name-calling, and if you honestly didn't believe that you would create any friction whatsoever with your comments then you would have apologised straight away. Yet, you continued to criticise people on this thread.

I agree with Edwina's Secretary a lot, and also, my own personal opinion is that I hate it when people use religion as an excuse for their actions. I, personally, am an atheist, but still have respect for all religions, however I can't stand it when people justify themselves with lines of their choosing from the Bible.

Also, when you stated not to follow 'stupid' countries, I do hope that you weren't talking about the UK? I gathered this as the original topic was based here, and if you weren't I apologise, but please don't label ANY country as stupid. No-one can make you follow another country's example, I'm not a fan of the nanny culture either but I do not go throwing insults about.

Anyway, I think we should let our differences settle and just get back to the original topic.

[Puckstop31]

Puckstop31, your opinion began with rude and unjustified name-calling, and if you honestly didn't believe that you would create any friction whatsoever with your comments then you would have apologised straight away. Yet, you continued to criticise people on this thread.

I KNEW it would cause friction. I will never apologize for saying what I believe to be true.

I agree with Edwina's Secretary a lot, and also, my own personal opinion is that I hate it when people use religion as an excuse for their actions. I, personally, am an atheist, but still have respect for all religions, however I can't stand it when people justify themselves with lines of their choosing from the Bible.

I was not using my faith "in defence" of my actions. All I did was offer the Bible verse, John 3:16 as an example that no matter how bad things become, there is always hope. PERIOD. Please do not be mistaken about that.

[carole]

Puckstop31, I don't have a problem with you voicing your opinion, or speaking as what you see the truth, that is what a forum is all about, however there are way's of saying things in my opinion, that can still be the truth but not offensive to other people, would you not agree with me here? Infact i respect your opinion as I do other's, hey i call a spade a spade too, but I try to do it as nice as possible if i can.

You may not see it offensive to call people sucker's and tell them their country is stupid, but to some it is, for me it's water off a duck's back, because every country has it's fault's, and everyone is gullible one way or another , even you.

Maybe you are referring to my country, which you call stupid because we have free health care, hmm well that is your opinion, personally after reading some of the stuff on PT about healthcare problems, i am glad we still have so called free health care,tell me what is so wrong with it,and yes i voted for the government that supports this, but then all our parties do,so no choice there matey.,I choose to have private medical insurance all the same, because yep i don't want to be on a waiting list when i have some serious illness requiring treatment, of course the free health care is not all it's cracked up to be, but for some it is better than nothing at all.

Well if I am indeed naive and a sucker, well i am a happy one at that, i Love my country, my life,and yep my goverment so far is looking after me to my liking.

[sparks19]

Just for the record.... no one is using religion to excuse themselves.... no where on this thread has someone used it as an excuse for their behaviour. Bringing up scriptures is not making excuses. Perhaps you should read that particular post again.

[Miss Z]

Just for the record.... no one is using religion to excuse themselves.... no where on this thread has someone used it as an excuse for their behaviour. Bringing up scriptures is not making excuses. Perhaps you should read that particular post again.

On the contrary. Perhaps I cannot phrase myself quite with the expertise of Edwina's Secretary, but being only 15 I'm sure I have a couple more years ahead of me to improve this. As others have quite freely done so, I was expressing my personal opinion and I have no issues with anyone questioning them, it's just what I see. No offence is intended to anyone here from me.

I was just having a re-read through the whole thread, and now having studied it fairly dilligently I'm rather upset by a few comments. It's something I've noticed ever since I've been on PT but seems to be occurring more than ever now for one reason or another.

It is the fact that my country, your country and every other country that members belong to all have different political views and policies. Now I fully comprehend that with this being a primarily American board it is influenced by primarily American views, and most of the time I find it extremely interesting and enlightening to learn about American politics. However, from time to time, it seems these views are splashed about in an attempt to cover the whole world. I know that I'm not the only one who feels this. Of course, I do not expect to be given special treatment purely on the basis that I am part of a minority, and I understand fully that it's healthy to have a variety of views and cultures expressed here. I am just asking for a little more consideration to the fact that there are representatives of more than one country here who may or may not have what you consider to make yourself so great, and may or may not share your fancies in politics.

I think I may make a thread of this too, it's been something that's been bothering me lately.

[Marigold2]

Ok everyone lets make nice. Miss Z what an excellent post especially for someone so young. Your wisdom surpasses others twice your age. Since today is March 1 and spring is not too far away lets take this tread and make it something nice.

I am a gardener and one of my favorite flowers are yellow and pink roses.
What about the rest of you, what flowers are you looking forward to.??
I am looking forward to the Orange Hollyhocks I planted, my seeds are popping up.

1) Orange Hollyhocks

[IRescue452]

You can get just as fat by cooking your own hamburgers at home everyday. Lets not blame McDonalds for people's weight problems. I live a healthy lifestyle and enjoy McDonalds as a treat. They haven't shoved burgers down my throat yet.

[sparks19]

On the contrary. Perhaps I cannot phrase myself quite with the expertise of Edwina's Secretary, but being only 15 I'm sure I have a couple more years ahead of me to improve this. As others have quite freely done so, I was expressing my personal opinion and I have no issues with anyone questioning them, it's just what I see. No offence is intended to anyone here from me.

I was just having a re-read through the whole thread, and now having studied it fairly dilligently I'm rather upset by a few comments. It's something I've noticed ever since I've been on PT but seems to be occurring more than ever now for one reason or another.

It is the fact that my country, your country and every other country that members belong to all have different political views and policies. Now I fully comprehend that with this being a primarily American board it is influenced by primarily American views, and most of the time I find it extremely interesting and enlightening to learn about American politics. However, from time to time, it seems these views are splashed about in an attempt to cover the whole world. I know that I'm not the only one who feels this. Of course, I do not expect to be given special treatment purely on the basis that I am part of a minority, and I understand fully that it's healthy to have a variety of views and cultures expressed here. I am just asking for a little more consideration to the fact that there are representatives of more than one country here who may or may not have what you consider to make yourself so great, and may or may not share your fancies in politics.

I think I may make a thread of this too, it's been something that's been bothering me lately.

I still don't see where that has anything to do with people using religion as an excuse for their behaviour I haven't seen anyone use religion as an excuse for their behaviour in this thread.

for the record.... I am not from the US.... I am from Canada. You know... one of the countries that HAS socialized medicine that puck is referring to. I also dislike our current state of "free" health care. However, I know my husband and I know what he really means when he says things the way he does. I don't expect anyone else to understand him. he is very passionate and emotional.... he gets worked up.... but everyone on this forum is guilty of the same thing at times. I know I have said things in a manner that came across as harsh or rude.... I have also been spoken to by many on this board in a manner that came across as harsh or rude. I, however, don't take personal offense to their comments. I will point out that I do not appreciate their behaviour and attitude towards me but that's it... after that I am done with it. I am not prepared to burn them at the stake and forever scorn them for their emotional responses. I also don't make a production of it throughout the entire thread. I deal with it and move on. Most have moved on.... perhaps the rest of us can do the same.

BUT still no one was using religion as an excuse for their behaviour.

[carole]

Oh wombat you are so funny did you see the black caps win the hadlee trophy by any chance, he he. was a great game i believe.

[wombat2u2004]

Puckstop31, I don't have a problem with you voicing your opinion, or speaking as what you see the truth, that is what a forum is all about, however there are way's of saying things in my opinion, that can still be the truth but not offensive to other people, would you not agree with me here? Infact i respect your opinion as I do other's, hey i call a spade a spade too, but I try to do it as nice as possible if i can.

You may not see it offensive to call people sucker's and tell them their country is stupid, but to some it is, for me it's water off a duck's back, because every country has it's fault's, and everyone is gullible one way or another , even you.

Maybe you are referring to my country, which you call stupid because we have free health care, hmm well that is your opinion, personally after reading some of the stuff on PT about healthcare problems, i am glad we still have so called free health care,tell me what is so wrong with it,and yes i voted for the government that supports this, but then all our parties do,so no choice there matey.,I choose to have private medical insurance all the same, because yep i don't want to be on a waiting list when i have some serious illness requiring treatment, of course the free health care is not all it's cracked up to be, but for some it is better than nothing at all.

Well if I am indeed naive and a sucker, well i am a happy one at that, i Love my country, my life,and yep my goverment so far is looking after me to my liking.

Go the Kiwis.....good one !!!
Wombat

[carole]

Now wombat you would not be saying that if we were playing cricket lol, but thank you for your support.

Miss Z i must also add what an intelligent, and well written post you have made, i agree with what you said entirely, and for the most, most people here do respect each other's beliefs, religion,politics,etc,only a minor few don't I think,for one so young you are very clued up, not naive and a sucker like me lol. .i think maybe the poster has insulted me, but i am too naive too get it eh? lol wink,wink,nudge,nudge.

[wombat2u2004]

Now wombat you would not be saying that if we were playing cricket lol, but thank you for your support.

Miss Z i must also add what an intelligent, and well written post you have made, i agree with what you said entirely, and for the most, most people here do respect each other's beliefs, religion,politics,etc,only a minor few don't I think,for one so young you are very clued up, not naive and a sucker like me lol. .i think maybe the poster has insulted me, but i am too naive too get it eh? lol wink,wink,nudge,nudge.

Oh that is not true Carole .
In fact most of us Aussies always support the LOSING team....hence the saying "Go the Kiwis"....LOL.
Wombat