Westminster 2007- update pg 8 post112*REPLAY 2/13

[borzoimom]

I am fully aware of the differences between the different lines.
I still do not care for the American Showlines. I'm more into the working dogs, the ones that stay true or as close as possible to Von Stephanitz original plan for the Ultimate working dog. These showline dogs purely breed for Looks...which makes sense because they are Show dogs. They are perfect for what they were bred for...Showing. I wasn't questioning that, I was stating facts that I have learned from numerous breeders and others who work with the breed. As well as the countless hours of research I have put into the breed.
I also know that Travis isn't show quality. Nor do I want him to be. He resembles the working lines more (though I'm not sure of his exact lines, but Im pretty sure it is a mix of different lines).
I was simply answering the question about the angulation. American lines (and sometimes German Show lines) have extreme angulation. (Though that is not the case with all Showlines ofcourse). Working lines have very little angulation.
Don't mean to start an argument or debate, just trying to clear up my post.

ETA- Reread your post, The breed wasn't meant to have that extreme angulation though. No where in the original standard or any standard do I see that they were meant to be bred with that exagerated, over the top angulation.

Mine were the top working lines in the US as well... Here is midas. one of the photos I have I use the most but as Dr.goodnow can tell you- tops he may be- there were many after and before him out of my lines. I had some of the top SCh111 etc and working shepherds in the country... And all looked the same...