Westminster 2007- update pg 8 post112*REPLAY 2/13

[borzoimom]

Are they marked on how they behave while being judged too?

No- unless there is aggression- like last night- the welch terrier bit the handler. Its at the judges discreation to dismiss the dog- but its obvious the handler twisted the tail..
It helps the judge if the dog is attentive- and alert and showing their true nature of their breed-.. Like the sighthounds are naturally more aloof than the scent hounds- a good judge knows the difference as each dog is bred on the standard of THAT breed..

[Freedom]

Why do they put the bearded collie in the B's, but the smooth coat and the rough coat together as collie (coat type). Drives me nuts sometimes, hehe.

[borzoimom]

Why do they put the bearded collie in the B's, but the smooth coat and the rough coat together as collie (coat type). Drives me nuts sometimes, hehe.

The rough and smooth collie are the same breed but the variety is different with the coat- but its the same standard.
The bearded collie is a different breed.

[applesmom]

Have they shown the sporting group yet! Is the GSP the Fieldfine dog?

[Freedom]

Oh. I thought they were the same dog, 3 different coats. Thanks.

[cassiesmom]

The rough and smooth collie are the same breed but the variety is different with the coat- but its the same standard.
The bearded collie is a different breed.

I wonder if there's a link between the Beardie and the Old English Sheepdog. Same thing with the Polish Sheepdog... they all have that fluffy, poufy coat... ???

[borzoimom]

I wonder if there's a link between the Beardie and the Old English Sheepdog. Same thing with the Polish Sheepdog... they all have that fluffy, poufy coat... ???

Many breeds contributed into other breeds- the most obvious is the Mastiff- in a lot of breeds, or in Terriers the now extinct Black and Tan Terrier. Even the Borzoi came from the Greyhound and collie..

[mr.chiwawa]

I WANT THE PBGB OR THE AKITA TO TAKE THE BEST IN SHOW....I CANT STAND POODLES AND SINCE MY BREED DIDNT MAKE IT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE OF THE TWO I MENTIONED ABOVE TO TAKE IT.KEEPING MY FINGERS CROSSED

[Freedom]

James (English Springer) or Bouvier, here.

I think the show cut does a lot to pull back the poodle. Wish they would get rid of that.

But then, I wish they would do away with docking (ears, tails, etc) too.

[Danegirl2208]

the PBGV is GORGEOUS, i wouldnt be a bit surprised if he won... im rooting for the English Springer Spaniel too, love him!

[cassiesmom]

Do all German Shepherd Dogs have back legs that are angular like that, I never realized that before. Why is it a German Shepherd Dog, and not a German Shepherd, I wonder?

One more question, when they say a dog's ears are cropped or tail docked - is that necessary for judging, or can you leave it?

I didn't pick the winner (I was rooting for the PBGV or the Bouvier) -- But it was a lot of fun to watch! They were all so different from each other!

[Freedom]

Cassie's Mom, each breed has a written standard, developed by the club for that breed. And yes, the standard for many requires docking, tail, ears or both.

This is the standard for the bichon.

http://www.bichon.org/akc.htm

You can google the breed name and standard and find the one you are thinking about. The Boston terrier has this standard:

http://www.bostonterrierclubofameric...dStandard.html

As you read through it, it says the ears must be erect, either naturally or docked.

And the standard varies based on which kennel club you are competeing in. AKC; UKC, CKC, and then all the other countries.