Mr. Biggles is being put to sleep tomorrow

[Lori Jordan]

New York Animal Precinct (ASPCA) - 8 million people, 5 million animals, says so right in their introduction to the show.

According to their website ...

14 uniformed and plainclothes officers investigate more than 4,000 cases per year.

In 2000, over 33,000 calls and inquiries were received by HLE (Humane Law Enforcement) of which 4,262 were cruelty complaints for investigation. There were 55 arrests made, 30 summonses issued and 537 animals seized.


According to the ASPCA website...

No government institution or animal organization is responsible for tabulating national statistics for the animal protection movement.


Approximately 8 million to 12 million companion animals enter animal shelters nationwide every year, and approximately 5 million to 9 million are euthanized (60 percent of dogs and 70 percent of cats). Shelter intakes are about evenly divided between those animals relinquished by owners and those picked up by animal control. These are national estimates; the percentage of euthanasia may vary from state to state.


More than 20 percent of people who leave dogs in shelters adopted them from a shelter. (Source: NCPPSP)

Five out of ten dogs in shelters and seven out of ten cats in shelters are destroyed simply because there is no one to adopt them.


According to ASPCA of New York also...

New York

Regulating Authority/Agency (for municipal animal shelters; for private shelters)
State Commissioner of Agriculture and Markets. See N.Y. Agric. & Mkts. § 108 (1999)

Adoption Procedures
- 1. The legislature finds that the uncontrolled breeding of dogs and cats in the state results in an overabundance of puppies and kittens. More puppies and kittens are produced than responsible homes for them can be provided. This leads to many of such animals becoming stray and suffering privation and death, being impounded and destroyed at great expense to the community and constituting a public nuisance and health hazard. It is therefore declared to be the public policy of New York state that every feasible humane means of reducing the production of unwanted puppies and kittens be encouraged.



Puppy or not, do you want to be the one to let one or more of those 537 animals stay in homes of neglect and abuse because their isn't the money or cage space available because of one agressive dog that may or may not be adoptable?

Not at all that is not what i am trying to say,I agree with you but a 4 month old puppy i find that obserd!The point im trying to get across is that if they worked with that puppy,The lady is on staff that takes care of that dept,He passed everything but the food agressive,Now all they did was started to pout....That puppy lost his life because he was hungry i dont care what the numbers are that women was not a dog behavioralist obviously!

[Catlady711]

Not at all that is not what i am trying to say,I agree with you but a 4 month old puppy i find that obserd!The point im trying to get across is that if they worked with that puppy,The lady is on staff that takes care of that dept,He passed everything but the food agressive,Now all they did was started to pout....That puppy lost his life because he was hungry i dont care what the numbers are that women was not a dog behavioralist obviously!

Regardless of age, a 4 month old has to have a home just as much as an older dog. Agression in a puppy is just as serious as an older dog. And since I've watched the show quite a bit myself, I do believe that all the dogs they test, they FIRST do a health check on and get the dog back up to proper weight before they attempt the testing. These are professionals and have training to help them help the dogs.

Whether you agree or dissagree with the woman's abilities as a dog behavioralist, it's her job and she's doing it the best she can to help those that she can and to protect people and other animals. If you think you can do better I'm sure there are a TON of shelters that would love for you to voulunteer your services to them to help those you can, and I'm sure the animals would thank you gratefully for it.

Given the lack of good homes available, the number of rescues/siezures they have, the amount of money and cage space available, they simply can only put x amount of time, effort, and money into any one dog, and it's usually based on whether or not that dog has a good chance of being adopted. The numbers are a fact and cannot be avoided regardless of sentiment.

They simply do not go around euthanizing animals without a very good reason. The name of the organization is the ASPCA which stands for the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. It's simply a sad fact of life that some have to be euthanized because of overpopulation. It is simply impossible to save every single animal out there, which is why they work so hard on educating the public on proper care, and spaying/neutering.

[Catty1]

Jess - when was Chad's last tetanus shot? That's my only concern.

How much is a behaviourist going to cost? And where will Biggles stay?

For those who missed it, Chad went through a nasty bout with flesh-eating disease, chemo (I remember that thread)- and the reason they took so long to find dogs with no aggression is because a bite literally can kill Chad if another infection sets up.

He is now understandably terrified to be in the same house with Biggles.

I am surprised no one is blasting the shelter because they apparently lied about this. Jess, did you find out if they did lie?

In any case, Jess and Chad have their hands full with a human "behaviouralist", and a dog they were told was not aggressive.

Again, it's between Jess and the vet - if the vet has any bright ideas, that would be great.

Take care all.

[Taz_Zoee]

People have been saying the shelter lied. I am wondering if the people who brought them back last didn't lie....just to save Mr B's life. Not that that would be okay, but ya know what I mean?
Regardless, someone lied and it could have cost Chad his life and now it is costing Mr Biggles his life.

[king2005]

Jess - when was Chad's last tetanus shot? That's my only concern.

How much is a behaviourist going to cost? And where will Biggles stay?

For those who missed it, Chad went through a nasty bout with flesh-eating disease, chemo (I remember that thread)- and the reason they took so long to find dogs with no aggression is because a bite literally can kill Chad if another infection sets up.

He is now understandably terrified to be in the same house with Biggles.

I am surprised no one is blasting the shelter because they apparently lied about this. Jess, did you find out if they did lie?

In any case, Jess and Chad have their hands full with a human "behaviouralist", and a dog they were told was not aggressive.

Again, it's between Jess and the vet - if the vet has any bright ideas, that would be great.

Take care all.

It was a couple months ago, so hes good in that department.

I don't think I could find out if they lied.. I'm sure the other people who took them home, prob. lied & said it was Bears meds, cause giving her her meds is a joke.

Saddly I can't do squat regardless what the vet says. Mr. Biggles has to go.. if I give him up for attacking, he'll be PTS alone with strangers... If i go in with him, then I can atleast be with him, to make the passing easier. Its the least i can do in this horrible situation.

[DrKym]

What time is the appt Jess?

[king2005]

What time is the appt Jess?

There is no set time. I just have to show up with him.

I wish I could just wake up & everything will be ok.

[DrKym]

There is no set time. I just have to show up with him.

I wish I could just wake up & everything will be ok.

I know you don't believe this now, but it will be ok, someday. You have a lot on your plate right now. Life isn't easy, and it isn't a dress rehearsal, but it can be a wonderful thing.

I am praying that soon your dark place will be filled with much light and a happier heart. Candles are lit here for all of those that is affecting, in your home and here on PT.