ROFL Bmom! yup ! must make her for certain a Newf! Just like btw uh Dobes do not come in the color we have as I was told by a vet tech.....they must both be mutations......ALL dobes are black *sigh* wouldn't bug me but that is the reason Rusty was abandoned a yr ago by his breeder with his 2 sibs in a snow storm....the other were the right color..............