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    I agree with the dietary requirement issue - however, please please, if I invite you over for dinner, tell me what you can't eat. I will be more than happy to make something you can eat!!! I don't want to make a roast, if all you wanted were the potatoes and vegies!

    As for the "postage blood donor" - good grief, geta life!!! It is not as if you did it on purpose ....

    And Richard, backing up your vegan "issues" - IMO if you are a vegan, GO TO A VEGAN restaurant!!! There are so many of them in Australia ...... well, in Melbourne anyway

    As an aside, last year, I bought a roll of Christmas paper - all excited because it looked so fabulous through the wrapper. Only to discover when I opened it, it was for a Jewish holiday
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    I don't think the first example was necessarily rude... he was making a meal just for her, she should let him know while he was shopping what her restrictions are. However, if a group meal has been prepared, by all means you should try to be gracious about it and not expect everyone else to make allowances for your preferences, especially if you don't have any good reason to assume they would be aware of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophist
    I don't think the first example was necessarily rude... he was making a meal just for her, she should let him know while he was shopping what her restrictions are..
    Oh, she wasn't rude...She waited uintil the poor guy had shopped for half the meal.

    He told her up front that he was making two fish dishes....one was in filet form, the other was sushi. Now, I don't mind a sake with my sushi.....But if a chef type person offeree me a meal I'd suspect that alcohol was part of the menu, either cokking or drinking.

    My point was that people aren't williing to be polite by pointing out that they do have a dietary restriction because of their religion..

    This woman didn't become a Mormon until he got the wine......Then she got religion......

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD

    This woman didn't become a Mormon until he got the wine......Then she got religion......
    I can't judge that without seeing the show for myself, but that doesn't seem to be clearly inferred from the first post. Also, I disagree that one should naturally assume that a meal had to involve alcohol and caffeine simply because a professional was making it, and she did have him go ahead and make it once she realized it was something that would have the chance to cook out.

    Again, it wasn't like this chef had invited her over for dinner and she didn't say anything and then pitched a fit. He randomly picked her out of the supermarket, and they were shopping for things to bring into her home. I think that is a pretty big distinction.

    The muslim woman who was furious that pork was ordered to her table while she was out to eat was, IMO, crossing a line. A muslim woman helping me shop for a meal I am going to make just for her in her own home who says "Oh, I can't do bacon!" doesn't cross the same line. For me, it is the difference between insisting someone else follows your restrictions, and asking someone else to respect your beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD
    Oh, she wasn't rude...She waited uintil the poor guy had shopped for half the meal.

    He told her up front that he was making two fish dishes....one was in filet form, the other was sushi. Now, I don't mind a sake with my sushi.....But if a chef type person offeree me a meal I'd suspect that alcohol was part of the menu, either cokking or drinking.

    My point was that people aren't williing to be polite by pointing out that they do have a dietary restriction because of their religion..

    This woman didn't become a Mormon until he got the wine......Then she got religion......
    At least he hadn't paid for it already!

    There are quite a few recipes that do not call for any type of alcohol. Plenty. That also ties into the Mormon thing. She probably didn't think it necessary to announce her religion until something directly involving it came up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captain
    And Richard, backing up your vegan "issues" - IMO if you are a vegan, GO TO A VEGAN restaurant!!! There are so many of them in Australia ...... well, in Melbourne anyway
    If I had to go to a vegan restuarant everytime I wanted to eat out, I would never eat outside of home....I have been a vegetarian for 10 years and have many vegetarian friends and I have never met one that flops around if everyone isn't completely accomodating, as RICHARD suggests.

    I don't agree with trying to "convert" people to vegetarianism but I also don't agree with religious beliefs being pushed onto others, either, as some people do. For some reason, it seems people are only allow to hold beliefs if they are institutionalized.

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