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    I know what you mean, it's the sickest thing I've ever heard of. We were learning about slavery a while back in Social Studies and I couldn't believe some of it. Now we're onto the Civil War(I love learning about wars!) and Gettysburg really took a toll on me. I want to go so bad , I'm very close, but I'm afraid of what my own reaction will be.

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    Here is an excellent book for you to read.
    http://www.amazon.com/Hiding-Place-C...e=UTF8&s=books
    It is a story about a Christian family who hid Jews during the Holocaust. It is troubling that humans can do these things. There is no doubt in my mind that there is a God and a Satan.

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    When I was in school we did not study the holocaust. After I was out of college I was traveling in Europe and a visit to one of the concentration camps was on the itinerary.

    I was shocked and appalled. I could not understand. I began to study to try to understand. I read everything I could find..."The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", "Mein Kampf" and more personal accounts than you can imagine. I studied the history of the war as well.

    What I learned is how easily people can be lead. How useful fear -- even the threat of fear -- is to people who want to control others. How important it is that we not accept unquestioningly what the government...or anyone else says. And that forbidding criticism of the government is very, very dangerous.

    And I learned that...just as there are bad people...and very, very bad people, there are also good people...but mostly there are people who are just trying to survive.

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    I have not studied the Holocaust, but I did do a report on Adolf Hitler, and I learned some things about the Nazis. Truly sick people.

    But you are right about one thing: they were only doing what they thought was right. And although what they thought was right was wrong and sick, it was what they believed in. Just like when we have a leader of some group or something we are a part of, they do what they think is right and we follow because we think it is right as well.

    Don't get me wrong though, I am one hundred percent against them and what they did.

    Kind of off topic, but what also makes me mad is when people make jokes about the Nazis, and one time on TV I saw this show where this guy thought it would be funny to go out wearing the Nazi sign around his arm and stuff. No joke about that stuff will ever be funny.

    I've heard people say that in time, it will be okay and funny to joke about things that have happened. But the Nazis are not one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husky15

    But you are right about one thing: they were only doing what they thought was right. And although what they thought was right was wrong and sick, it was what they believed in. Just like when we have a leader of some group or something we are a part of, they do what they think is right and we follow because we think it is right as well.
    I am not 100% sure on this. As a history major, I took several classes where we covered the Holocaust. I believe most did think they were doing the right but some things go beyond believing in a leader.

    Ilsa Koch was a wife of a Nazi commander. She used to ride in the camps half-naked and have anyone who looked severely whipped. She also kept a tattoo collection - not her own. What she kept was the skin of those who were murdered by taking photos of their tattoos while they lived and once dead (gassed, worked to death, etc.), she collected the real thing - the actual tattooed skin.

    This, among many other horrifying events, make me wonder if they were "just doing what they thought were right." The Holocaust went far beyond the murder of thousands.

    To put it simply (and please know I am NOT trying to 'simplyify' or lessen what happened), when a shelter has too many animals, sometimes they must be put down. They are gassed in mass numbered but NOT tortured first. It's horrible but some believe it must be done. The Nazis did not humanely 'put down' a race of people because they thought it had to be done.

    The Nazis tortured their victims to extreme degrees. They exploited them sexually, physically, and mentally. They starved them and worked them to death. Some were used for medical experiments.

    These, among other things, help me to think the Nazis went way beyond just 'doing what they thought was right.'
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    We finished the book. I went to the public library and checked out the other two books she wrote...the author was Livia Bitton-Jackson, if anyone wants to find the book. The other books are just as good, ones about the time from being liberated to when they were allowed to go to America. The other one's about her in america. i still can't stop thinking about the Holocaust. Unless of course I'm thinking about my baby, Cole. He went to RB jan. 11, 2007.
    in on the joke and i cant stop laughing

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