Stop the Ban on Pit Bulls

**borzoimom** · 11-14-2006, 02:23 PM

No you are right- you dont know me.. I dont hate pits- I think there is too much of ownership and people not able to understand the legal limits on this breed in a attack is awful.
As I stated- had my friends dog been a golden retriever, she would have only paid for the medical bills- it would not have been a crime..
I have seen a side to these breeds I wish I had not seen- but if they dont get the breed in with the people that care- not the dog fighthing, not the gangs, this will never change.

**borzoimom** · 11-14-2006, 02:27 PM

I am against the clubs denial there is a problem. I am against the idea of having a macho dog ends up at the dogs expense. I am against people that have no clue this breed will not let off of an attack, and training etc is no just important- but DOWN RIGHT NECESSARY.. I am against the insurance companies that states one pit will cost someone over 700 dollars a year in insurance because the laws allows others to sue for these awful amonts - 300 grand and up is the going rate...
THese are breeds that went past being a guard dog, to one that finishes a fight in death. And the clubs just stick their heads in the sand and ignore it while owners that never hear the other side ignore the warnings ...

**Roxyluvsme13** · 11-14-2006, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by borzoimom

No you are right- you dont know me.. I dont hate pits- I think there is too much of ownership and people not able to understand the legal limits on this breed in a attack is awful.

I've just heard otherwise from my well-known around here friends, but okay, I'm not trying to start an argument. It's just funny how you hate them one day then here you are saying how abused and disliked they are. Anyways, I'm not trying to start an argument, and I do agree that pits have a bad rep, and it's not their fault it's the owner's. (and this has been discussed in this forum many times over.)

**borzoimom** · 11-14-2006, 02:45 PM

I never hated- I am hurt my friend has to suffer so for a dog bite- any other breed it would have been a fine.
I know the attacks are more vicious but still.. If people knew the truth better with these breeds, they might be more prepared to do what is right in prevention.

**Roxyluvsme13** · 11-14-2006, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by borzoimom

I never hated- I am hurt my friend has to suffer so for a dog bite- any other breed it would have been a fine.

Okay, whatever..

Originally Posted by borzoimom

I know the attacks are more vicious but still.. If people knew the truth better with these breeds, they might be more prepared to do what is right in prevention.

Umm,

A golden retriever could attack just as viciously as a Pit bull. and don't say you didn't say that the attacks are more vicious cuz ya just did. If they knew the truth better they might be more prepared to do what's right in the prevention? That sounds to me like you're trying to say pit bulls should be banned or something..

**caseysmom** · 11-14-2006, 02:52 PM

In light of the controversy of the thread in the breed section I would think that starting this thread may be in the interest of trouble so I have purposely stayed out of it.

I noticed on your other forum borzoimom you suggested that pit bulls should be completely eliminated.

**borzoimom** · 11-14-2006, 02:58 PM

Not acknowledging there is a problem with these breeds, is like the Borzoi club to ignore the fact my breed will chase- potentially kill- cats... Our club and breed knowsssssssss there is a problem with small dogs and cats- we acknowlege that. After all- my breed will chase a plastic white bag for God sake.
As long as the clubs do nothing to inform, this will continue..

**Roxyluvsme13** · 11-14-2006, 03:00 PM

But there is NO problem if the dog doesn't have some idiot-brained for an owner. My dog could be a vicious killer, but she's not. The dogs don't have a problem the owners do.

**borzoimom** · 11-14-2006, 03:05 PM

HOney- my friend was one of the most skilled trainers I ever met.. If the breed clubs dont help, nothing will be done.
Take Kommondors for example- they only take their family, and puppy buyers are told this.. Or any sighthound about small animals or terriers with rodent type pets- but they refuse to do anything about this ... All pits are banned here, and mixed. The reason is to make people think before getting these breeds. If they are totally outlawed in the US, the only ones that will have them are the drug dealers for fighthing.... Or as they said here- shoot on sight.. That is sick to me.. If you really cared you wouldnt get on your ivory tower but try to help. Educated people on what is required.
If I took one of my borzois to a toy breed dog show, they would wear a racing muzzle. The same responsiblity needs to go here...

**borzoimom** · 11-14-2006, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13

But there is NO problem if the dog doesn't have some idiot-brained for an owner. My dog could be a vicious killer, but she's not. The dogs don't have a problem the owners do.

BTW- how many have you owned?