Thank you... I will write those names down, and ask my vet about it. I hope I am able to get the Vet that I have used for years. The other vet, a women, did not give me good advise. She told me to give mineral oil by mouth to a kitten for constipation. The kitten got it in his lungs and died. The other vet I use all the time, later asked about my kittens, I told him about the mineral oil by mouth... He said "What vet told you that, that's not right, they can't taste it and can inhale it." I said....um.... the one that works in your office. So you see my problem. The new vet is always there... the other one, is away a lot.