I would have loved to see the Presiden'ts face after reading this....

**Lady's Human** · 09-13-2006, 04:13 PM

ES, what I meant was that taking something apolitical, like a terrorist attack, and turning it into a soapbox for your own personal views is unacceptable.

It would be expected for the President to deliver a speech on the anniversary of Sept 11th. It's his job, and any president would have been crucified in the media (and rightfully so) for not marking the day with a speech of some sort.

I would also expect the pundits to stuff a sock in their mouths for a day or two, which they didn't. I heard Franken right after the prime time speech playing sound clips and repeating "that's just crap" over and over again, Olbermann's piece, Limbaugh, et al. There are times when you just need to shut the h**l up.

**Edwina's Secretary** · 09-13-2006, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Lady's Human

ES, what I meant was that taking something apolitical, like a terrorist attack, and turning it into a soapbox for your own personal views is unacceptable.

It would be expected for the President to deliver a speech on the anniversary of Sept 11th. It's his job, and any president would have been crucified in the media (and rightfully so) for not marking the day with a speech of some sort.

I would also expect the pundits to stuff a sock in their mouths for a day or two, which they didn't. I heard Franken right after the prime time speech playing sound clips and repeating "that's just crap" over and over again, Olbermann's piece, Limbaugh, et al. There are times when you just need to shut the h**l up.

So how did you fel about the VERY political nature of GW's speech?

**LilacDragon** · 09-13-2006, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Lady's Human

ES, what I meant was that taking something apolitical, like a terrorist attack, and turning it into a soapbox for your own personal views is unacceptable.

It would be expected for the President to deliver a speech on the anniversary of Sept 11th. It's his job, and any president would have been crucified in the media (and rightfully so) for not marking the day with a speech of some sort.

I would also expect the pundits to stuff a sock in their mouths for a day or two, which they didn't. I heard Franken right after the prime time speech playing sound clips and repeating "that's just crap" over and over again, Olbermann's piece, Limbaugh, et al. There are times when you just need to shut the h**l up.

Yes, it was very appropriate that he mark the occasion with a speech. What was inappropriate was that he turned it into yet another opprotunity to tell us what a great guy he is by saving the Iraqi's from Saddam.

**momoffuzzyfaces** · 09-13-2006, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by LilacDragon

Yes, it was very appropriate that he mark the occasion with a speech. What was inappropriate was that he turned it into yet another opprotunity to tell us what a great guy he is by saving the Iraqi's from Saddam.

Strange, I don't remember him saying he was a great guy. I must have taken a bathroom break or something?

**LilacDragon** · 09-13-2006, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces

Strange, I don't remember him saying he was a great guy. I must have taken a bathroom break or something?

Puleeze - every speech he gives any more is a tribute to himself and how he knows better then anyone how to run the world.

**Lady's Human** · 09-13-2006, 07:09 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/...ipt/index.html

How is this speech in ANY way self congratulatory?

**LilacDragon** · 09-13-2006, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by Lady's Human

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/...ipt/index.html

How is this speech in ANY way self congratulatory?

I'm sorry. You are right. At no point does he take personal credit for much of anything.

I see that he does go on a bit about removing Saddam and his threat from power. He mentions Weapons of Mass Destruction. Saddam hasn't ever been an express threat to us! We sold him weapons not all that long ago. And the first time we went into the Gulf was because he had sent troops into Kuwait - it had nothing to do with protecting America. And if he was such a threat, why didn't we take care of it while we were there the first time. At no time has he supported Al Qaeda - that would be Syria. Ah, but not only are Syrians the "friends" of the U.S. in general - Syrian officials are friends of the Bush family.

Sorry, but if we can consider impeaching a President for a stupid stain on a dress, why is it that a man who lies to Congress to follow a personal agenda that gets thousands of people killed is allowed to stand at a podium and tell me how much God loves me?

**Lady's Human** · 09-13-2006, 07:52 PM

We didn't take care of Saddam Hussein the first time we were in Iraq because it was outside of the UN mandate for the operation, and we were invading with troops on line next to US troops who would have thought nothing of turning the turrets of their T-72s 90 degrees left or right and engaging US Forces (Syrian) had we crossed that line.

The Syrian Monarchy has never been a friend of the US, merely an ally of convenience during DS because Iraq was as much a threat to Syria as anyone else. Both sides play that game, and have for aeons, as "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

The US sold Iraq conventional weapons during the early 1980's while they were fighting Iran as a counterbalance to Iranian power. During the 1970's we sold arms to Iran for the same reasons, so there was a counterweight to growing Iraqi power. Geopolitics is ugly, and makes for strange and temporary alliances.

**RICHARD** · 09-13-2006, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by LilacDragon

Sorry, but if we can consider impeaching a President for a stupid stain on a dress, why is it that a man who lies to Congress to follow a personal agenda that gets thousands of people killed is allowed to stand at a podium and tell me how much God loves me?

Because you could get the stain out with Permatex Hand Cleaner with Lanoline and Aloe!

Think of all the little "swimmers" that Clinton and Monica killed, and then Billy lied about it.

Since we argue about the 'beginning of life' let's take a mircroscopic look at it., eh?

LH, the sky is GRAY!

That's what Al Gore said, and he's not the prez....

**Lady's Human** · 09-13-2006, 04:29 PM

The President, by nature of the job, is a politician. Any speech the President gives is going to be political in nature. Give it a rest for a couple days, then say whatever you want.

**lizbud** · 09-13-2006, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Lady's Human

Any speech the President gives is going to be political in nature. Give it a rest for a couple days, then say whatever you want.

You want a break from having to defend Bush? Well, I think a lot of folks
are tired of listening to the same old crap over and over, ad nauseam. I wish
he'd give his tired old ,stay the course messages, a rest too.

**Lady's Human** · 09-13-2006, 05:42 PM

No, I think everyone would appreciate a break from people politicizing everything.

The president could stand at the podium and state "the sky is blue" and the next three hours of airtime would be spent debating the issue and attacking the president for making such a stupid statement (Regardless of who is in office), with the requisite experts stating that the sky is actually not blue, it is pink, etc.

**Edwina's Secretary** · 09-13-2006, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Lady's Human

No, I think everyone would appreciate a break from people politicizing everything.

The president could stand at the podium and state "the sky is blue" and the next three hours of airtime would be spent debating the issue and attacking the president for making such a stupid statement (Regardless of who is in office), with the requisite experts stating that the sky is actually not blue, it is pink, etc.

must be something......uniquely American......