So, its safe to feed them trout? Do you give them the heads and tails? My son has around 20 trout in his freezer I'm sure he would give me some for the fur kids.![]()
So, its safe to feed them trout? Do you give them the heads and tails? My son has around 20 trout in his freezer I'm sure he would give me some for the fur kids.![]()
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Originally Posted by Jadapit
Yep! Trout is fine.That's the only fish, other than canned tuna, that my three have had. Before I gave them filets of trout.
They got every single piece of the fish.![]()
When we filet the fish we catch for ourselves, I have my brother save the remains. They can eat that, too.
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Mine had their first raw dinner tonight, i gave them each a chicken drumstick. For breakfast they had EVO. I will expand their diets slowly, thanks to his helpful thead! It has some great ideas...thanks for posting to it!
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Dogs can get salmon poisoning (caused by Neorickettsia helminthoeca) from eating salmon, steelhead and other trout species. I had a dog die from this disease before so I am overly paranoid about feeding it. If you freeze fish for at least 24 hours it will kill the parasite that causes salmon poisoning. (I freeze it for at least 4 days, usually a couple weeks but I am paranoid).Originally Posted by Jadapit
Pork is commonly a "dirty" meat so it is also best to freeze it as well before feeding it raw.
Here's a link with some more info on the disease: http://merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index....m/bc/57305.htm
But yes, as long as you freeze it first it is safe to feed them ALL parts, although some dogs are a little picky about eating raw seafood, but just like chicken, some people believe it is usually because of the texture and not the taste. So if your dogs do not eat seafood that well try feeding it frozen or partially frozen. Often times that changes the texture enough and they may eat it more willingly.
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Nova had a chicken quarter today.
This is almost completely localized to the north Pacific ocean. I wouldn't worry about salmonoid species over here, but I can definetly understand your paranoia!Originally Posted by lv4dogs
Dirty how? Are you refferring to trichinosis? It is very rare now in the US, and not a problem with pork raised for human consumption. If you're buying your meat from grocery stores or butchers, I wouldn't worry about the pork there. If it wasn't raised for humans, then I would deep freeze it for at least a week, if not more.Pork is commonly a "dirty" meat so it is also best to freeze it as well before feeding it raw.
I think that's pretty much guaranteed when owning a LabDoes anyone else have gobblers?Yes, my Labs are all gobblers, especially Nova and Luka. Buck is a little better since he was raised on raw, but he still eats some things like they're oysters.
Green tripe doesn't pass USDA's inspection. So basically, if you want tripe, you've gotta get it from somewhere else. I'm on a waiting list to get some from that supplier that I PMed you a while back.I see a lot of you feed tripe. Do you order it? I've never seen anything around here except for the bleached tripe they have at the grocery and I know that's of no nutritional value.
Yeah, like I said I am paranoid. lol I am glad you included that part, I completely forgot about it, which is odd as I always mention that. It's great to post that on a public forum because people from all over will see it, possibly people in the NW that might not of otherwise known about it. BUT some grocery stores get their seafood shipped in and even though you are buying it in the eastern parts it could still very well be NW fish. But if you catch your own fish in the eastern part, you are right, you probably don't have to worry about it.Originally Posted by .sarah
Yes, I was refferring to trichnosis, and if I recall correctly I thought I have heard other people mention other parasites & the like that are commonly found in pork. I know that they are rare in the US but I'd rather be safe than sorry.Originally Posted by .sarah
I never knew that. I wonder if it is legal for them to sell it for animal consumption and not human? I get green tripe from my butcher, I hope he's not doing it illegally.Originally Posted by .sarah
Soar high & free my sweet fur angels. I love you Nanook & Raustyk... forever & ever.
I was wondering about the pork and fresh salmon myself. I get a news letter from a guy that owns pit bulls he has fed his dogs raw for over a decade. Here is what he has to say about raw salmon and pork.
What meat sources you use is pretty much up to you. The only hard fast rules I follow are:
NO raw pork, trichinosis is still an issue unless you are POSITIVE the meat you get is clean. It's a nasty little worm that does a lot of damamge. I don't feed pork product period, it's hard for them to digest.
NO raw salmon. It can have a liver fluke that can potentially destroy your dogs liver. Cooked or canned is fine. One part of feeding raw that happens across the board, unless it's a young pup, is detox. Their system has to get rid of all the garbage that has built up over years of feeding dry food, good or bad quality. It usually takes a month with the worst case scenarios.
They smell, their coat gets dull and brittle, their skin is oily, their breath and stool stinks, then one day, bingo. Beautiful dog. It's happened to every one of my animals that I have given raw, to one degree or another.
Another concern that comes up frequently is bacteria and germs. A dogs system is designed to eat raw food. Their digestive juices are strong enough to break bones down, as a general rule they aren't very susceptible to e-Coli, listeria or salmonella.
The dogs that are going to be susceptible are the very young, the very old and those that are ill. As far as germs go, if you use the same cleaning practices you do with your own food everything should be fine. The dog bowls are cleaned after each meal, the prep surfaces are scrubbed and the utensils are washed. Common sense and good kitchen practices will keep everything in hand.
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I freeze all of their food before feeding. The Trout was frozen for about 2 week.
Today they're having:
Simba:
Chicken Breasts
Carrots
Tomatoes
Nala:
1/2 Chicken Thigh
Beef
Carrots
Tomatoes
Kiara:
Chicken Thigh
Beef
Carrots
Tomatoes
Nala and Kiara are gobblers - that's why I feed frozen.
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Set ablaze the billboards and their advertisements
Love with all your hearts and never forget
How good it feels to be alive
And strive for your desire"
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It is NOT an issue in USDA inspected meat. However, if you are worried, just don't feed it.Originally Posted by Jadapit
Just make sure another red meat is a staple in the diet. Beef and pork make up at least half of my dogs' diet, and I also feed Lamb when it's on sale (and I stock up, so it gets fed usually every two weeks or so). I personally believe that dogs' do better on a diet compromised of mostly red meat, though I have nothing to back that up besides observations that people have made of wild wolves
I try to keep the poultry at a minimum (less than 50% of the overall diet).
Again, this applies to salmon from the pacific. If in doubt, freezing for a week completely kills flukes. And again, don't feed it if it worries you.NO raw salmon. It can have a liver fluke that can potentially destroy your dogs liver.
It is fine, but it does not provide as much nutrition. If you are scared about salmon, feed other fish. However, raw salmon is a wonderful source of O3s. I rarely feed it because it is so durn expensive (only fed it once when we first started this diet and didn't know how to bargain shop).Cooked or canned is fine.
Try to keep the canned stuff to a minimum (lots of added things that you should avoid), and don't make cooked food a meal too often. Raw is always better.
When it comes to store-bought fish, I feed mostly trout. I get it at Winn-Dixie for $2.99/lb. That is incredibly cheap price for fish. I also feed whatever my dad catches (snapper, mullet, etc.). He fishes every two weeks. He brings home whatever he would otherwise throw out, and also keeps the scraps from cleaning the fish. Whole fish/fish heads/fish scraps are a wonderful way to get organs and body parts into your dogs' diet that most people have a hard time finding (brains, eyes, etc.).
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Danegirl, good video of Malakai! My S2 that takes videos is currently being repairedI've been wanting to get a video of them eating. I have tons of pictures, but videos are really interesting for the people that I am recruiting to start feeding raw
LOL, great shot! I am glad they are enjoying their new food!
Now I have to go cut up a 14 lb turkey and feed some of it to the dogs![]()
Glad to see I'm not the only one who has a gobbler! I pretty much feed all my food frozen, I still can't get over the "ick" factor of raw meat (ewww especially liver).
Robin I see the girls really enjoy their chicken! Love the pictures!
Huney had a special treat all of her own today....she caught herself a mouse! I look outside and what do I see but a tail and legs hanging out of her mouth![]()
I haven't added any pics of mine enjoying their food, thought I'd post a couple too.
Here they all are enjoying their rack of ribs.
Their meal today was beef tongue and pigs feet.
Huney, Bon & Simba-missed so very much
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