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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by carole
    I may be on the outer with my opinion but i am a firm advocate of vaccinating, my children and my pets, yes there are indeed risks and of course i do worry about them, but i believe the risk of getting these outweigh the risks of vaccination,there are some unlucky ones, humans and animals as have been told here, and i guess if that happened to me i might well change my mind.

    We donot have rabies vaccine here in NZ, so that is a plus, not needed, let us hope it stays that way, and i vaccinate my cats every two years for cat flue etc, it has only recently been reduced to two yearly , used to be once a year.

    In an ideal world if everyone vaccinated we would beable to irradicate nearly all these diseases,well that is my personal belief anyhow.

    I am sorry but I do disagree with you on this topic. I think vaccinations are one of the main killers of babies. And there is a great deal of proof out there if people would just look into it. Here is a list of just fillers for your average vaccination.


    Vaccine Fillers and Ingredients

    In addition to the viral and bacterial RNA or DNA that is part of the vaccines, here are the fillers:

    aluminum hydroxide
    aluminum phosphate
    ammonium sulfate
    amphotericin B
    animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
    dog kidney, monkey kidney,
    chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
    calf (bovine) serum
    betapropiolactone
    fetal bovine serum
    formaldehyde
    formalin
    gelatin
    glycerol
    ***human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)****
    hydrolized gelatin
    monosodium glutamate (MSG)
    neomycin
    neomycin sulfate
    phenol red indicator
    phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
    potassium diphosphate
    potassium monophosphate
    polymyxin B
    polysorbate 20
    polysorbate 80
    porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
    residual MRC5 proteins
    sorbitol
    sucrose
    thimerosal (mercury)
    tri(n)butylphosphate,
    VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
    washed sheep red blood cells

    Do you want this in your baby...

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    Smallpox has been listed as ereadicated, with only lab samples of the virus known to exist. The last known case of smallpox was in Somalia in 1978. The last children in the US to recieve the smallpox vaccine were born in 1969 and 1970.

    When was the last time you heard of a polio case in the US? If there was one, it would be huge news. Polio is known right now only to exist in 4 countries, according to the WHO

    http://www.polioeradication.org/cont...hly_sitrep.asp

    Vaccinations now have far fewer harmful ingredients in them now than they ever have, mainly due to a large increase in medical knowledge about what things do to our bodies. One of the ingredients you listed in your post was thimerosol, which is no longer in child vaccines, and is in vaccines for adults in such minute amounts that you would get more mercury from eating a can of tuna.

    The dangers from vaccines are far outweighed by the elimination of the diseases that they prevent.

    As to doing research, be VERY very careful about the studies you take a look at. The scientific methodology of many of the articles about vaccines on the web are doubtful at best. Look at the authors, who funded the studies, credentials, peer review, etc.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Smallpox has been listed as ereadicated, with only lab samples of the virus known to exist. The last known case of smallpox was in Somalia in 1978. The last children in the US to recieve the smallpox vaccine were born in 1969 and 1970.

    When was the last time you heard of a polio case in the US? If there was one, it would be huge news. Polio is known right now only to exist in 4 countries, according to the WHO

    http://www.polioeradication.org/cont...hly_sitrep.asp

    Vaccinations now have far fewer harmful ingredients in them now than they ever have, mainly due to a large increase in medical knowledge about what things do to our bodies. One of the ingredients you listed in your post was thimerosol, which is no longer in child vaccines, and is in vaccines for adults in such minute amounts that you would get more mercury from eating a can of tuna.

    The dangers from vaccines are far outweighed by the elimination of the diseases that they prevent.

    As to doing research, be VERY very careful about the studies you take a look at. The scientific methodology of many of the articles about vaccines on the web are doubtful at best. Look at the authors, who funded the studies, credentials, peer review, etc.
    I agree.

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    Domestic animals with no proof of rabies legitimate vaccine (in states where it is required by law) can be put down without even the owner knowing. That is why they tell you to always keep your rabies tag on your dog , or current rabies info on a micro chip/Home Again type service.

    But the chances of this happening? I personally don't keep rabies tags on my dogs, they would be lost in a matter of hours! I do however have the rabies certificate readily available if needed.

    My pet dogs get the Puppy 5-way or 7-way (usually 3 or 4 shots) and that's it for life. My dogs are exposed to tons of dogs. I have seen way to many unfit dog owners who would not recognize if their dog was ill and take necessary precautions to care for their dog until is well enough to expose to the general publics dogs.

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