Need drinking advice (Adult Advice)

[Cataholic]

Johanna I am not even going to waste one more minute of my time responding to you, I am not going to hijack this thread.

Oh, Okay, Carole!

(and, I think you meant, "other than this one last dig, I am not going to waste one more minute of my time"...)

[moosmom]

Okay, I was going to let this ride, but I've gotta say something...

This thread is not about you Cataholic, or anyone else that has responded. It's about King2005 and her wanting to learn how to drink. We have all shared our experiences with alcohol and what kind of impact it has had on our lives. King 2005 is a big girl. All we can do is be there for her. SHE'S the one who has a choice to drink or not to drink.

End of story.

[Pawsitive Thinking]

An emotive subject

[Cataholic]

I am so sick of this bullcrap. Donna, go back and read what people have written, they have shared THEIR personal experiences with alcohol. Some people have added their input about the effects it has had on their lives. Why in heck's name am I forbidden from doing the same? I will tell you why- because I have a DIFFERENT opinion than YOU, and, than CAROLE, on alcohol. Sorry, but, that doesn't make MY post any different.

If I had posted something like, "King, you should DRINK until you puke, it doesn't matter, it doesn't affect you, it won't make a single bit of difference" you, and probably others, would be all over it, correcting my 'errors', and telling me how irresponsible my post to King was/is. This isn't any different.

I think I posted two or three times, offering advice to King, and it wasn't until Carole decided to post one extremely LONG PERSONAL tirade against drinkers, making VERY irresponsible, and incorrect 'facts' about those that DO drink, did I comment on her post. AND, my post was a bit short, too.

King asked for advice, and I posted it- from my perspective. Until this becomes YOUR board (or, Carole's), I will post whatever in Heaven's name I feel like posting.

Johanna

[Pawsitive Thinking]

Not so long ago I asked for advice and support regarding my drinking problem and I got it in spades! For what its worth every post helped and gave me something to think about, whether I agreed with it or not. We can only share our personal experiences and hope that by doing so we can help someone else along the way

[moosmom]

Johanna,

King asked for advice, and I posted it- from my perspective. Until this becomes YOUR board (or, Carole's), I will post whatever in Heaven's name I feel like posting.

You don't have to get the attitude with me. I was simply stating a fact, that no matter WHAT kind of advice ANYONE here gives King2005, it is HER choice whether she chooses to drink or not.

I never said not to post your opinion. Geez!!!

[carole]

Johanna at first i had posted a somewhat lengthy reply to you, and have since deleted it, there is no way i am going to carry on this crap with you publicly, no-one needs to read this stuff, and i apologise to anyone who already read my post before i had the sense to delete it.

This is nothing but an embarrasment to me.

[Kfamr]

This is silly guys. Lets act our ages.


I think we all have posted something that in some way or another has helped Jess. No one has any more of right to post than anyone else.

There are pros and cons to drinking - or to anything else in life! Both sides need to be heard in order to make a personal decision. Johanna's posts have truth in it - so do Carole's!


Alcohol can be a VERY evil thing if not used responsibly. I have seen both sides, many, many times. I can't remember how many times growing up I've had to babysit adults in my life because they were unable to walk without falling or bumping into everything. Yet, at the same time, my parents have allowed me drinks or sips of drinks and yes, some of them are rather enjoyable! But there's no way in heck I'd drink myself drunk, or drink to GET drunk. That's the problem with a lot of people - they drink to get drunk, and that's all. Which leads to Johanna's statment... moderation!

Jess, just be careful, of course.

[carole]

Thank you Kay, the voice of reason, exactly why I have chosen not to continue with posts like that, i agree with what you wrote entirely and that was my intention to get across that moderation is the key and to be responsible about your drinking, i guess you just said it better than i did, which leaves no doubt in my mind that Jess will do that, she has a sensible head on her shoulders .

[PinkSunshine]

There are pros and cons to drinking - or to anything else in life!

Growing up around alcoholics my entire life, I'm honestly curious to see what the 'pros' to drinking would be.... Anyone care to elaborate?

[slleipnir]

I am so sick of this bullcrap. Donna, go back and read what people have written, they have shared THEIR personal experiences with alcohol. Some people have added their input about the effects it has had on their lives. Why in heck's name am I forbidden from doing the same? I will tell you why- because I have a DIFFERENT opinion than YOU, and, than CAROLE, on alcohol. Sorry, but, that doesn't make MY post any different.

I only browsed this thread, but I feel I want to respond to this. I'm sorry Jess, this has nothing to do with the original post. However, I feel that in this forum, whatever the majority feels, must be right. Therefore no one elses opinions matter or are correct. I don't see why everyone can't post their opinions, even if it goes against what the majority feels. I can see where Johanna is coming from. I like to drink too, and see nothing wrong with it. I've never been drunk, but I know my limits. I think if Jess wants to drink, she can go for it, if that's what she wants. From what i've read, Jess is smart enough to know how much she can handle.

About the counselling. I'm not one to say you need it or don't. However, they aren't always a bad thing. I had it in my mind that they were evil, and would never see one. I was struggling with depression and was seriously thinking of killing myself. My dad pretty much forced me to go. It wasn't what I expected. The lady was very nice, and she listened to everything I had to talk about and sometimes gave me suggestions as to how I could feel better. I think even just having someone to talk to made me feel better. Anyway Jess. I'm not saying you need to see one, I have no idea. All I'm saying is they're not ALL bad. I understand how they can be bad though. Anyway, you can always PM me if you need to talk.

Anyway, just wanted to post that.

(edit)
Sorry Jess, I hope that didn't sound like I was saying you are depressed...cause that's not what I ment. I'm just saying my experience with counsellors.

[Lori Jordan]

I missed this post,There is nothing wrong to have a couple drinks once in awhile but not on a everyday thing,I grew up with a mother who was a alcholic and its not a nice thing to see everyday,I myself do not drink alchol can just as easily be a drug to someone im so scared by seeing what my mother went through i dont have any intrest in the stuff..I hope you accomplish whatever it is...Just be careful!!

[king2005]

I am thankful of everyones posts, I got the info I needed & tonight will be my first.

I NEED to make sure I know my limit this weekend, so I don't accidently get drunk at the Private Singles Party on the 13th & do something really stupid infront of 400+ people I already know water is involved so I'll be wearing a dark green T-shirt & jean shorts with a belt.

I want to have a blast, but not at my expence. I know many of the people will be swingers (creepy), & thats why I'm dressing WAY down! I know how to have safe fun & I really miss partying & hanging out in large groups (thats how I'm solving my shy problem).. I've missed so much over the past 7yrs & cannot wait to have fun & make friends again! as I lost all my old ones to Rob


If I find my limit this weekend I'll drink 1/2 that amount on the 13th.. if I don't find my limit, then I'll just drink pop on the 13th & figure out my limit in a safer place later on, as I'm in no hurry to drink.. I just want to do it safe & smart.


I'm so excited about the 13th!! If it goes well, I plan to go out more & hopefull I'll be far less shy & more out going again. Then I can save up some $$ & fly to PT meetings on my own or rent a car (if I can get my G beore it expires)...

[slleipnir]

I find I start to feel dizzy when I have a few drinks...that's when I stop. I don't feel drunk, but I wouldn't want to be driving or anything of that sort. It's not enough for me to do stupid things either.